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Allora#2
08-11-2012, 20:45
i would like to ask what are the opinion about this rims?
do they look good on a Stratos.

BAS
08-11-2012, 21:07
I like these wheels and think they would make a good alternative to coffin spokes. I'm sure I've seen a Strat with them fitted.

ProtoTipo
08-11-2012, 21:17
I know somebody that has some of these wheels, and which car they will be fitted to.
There's a very close link between the two.
Enzo knows.

BAS
08-11-2012, 21:18
Just looked at the group4wheels site, 10" rims that's got my attention! last time I looked they only went up to 9" should work well with Grp 4 arches.

stratosfear
08-11-2012, 21:18
These wheels look great! This wheel style were on some early Rallye Stratos.

ProtoTipo
08-11-2012, 21:18
I'm sure I've seen a Strat with them fitted.

Pre production comp cars with the wind up windows. Like the new Hawk Giro replica.
Mangustas and Panteras had them as standard fitment.

ProtoTipo
08-11-2012, 21:20
Pre production comp cars with the wind up windows. Like the new Hawk Giro replica.
Mangustas and Panteras had them as standard fitment.

Here you go:
Andruet, Marlboro Stratos. (http://images.forum-auto.com/mesimages/363763/stratos%20-andruet.jpg)

ProtoTipo
08-11-2012, 21:22
Mangusta (http://geturswurve.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/66de-tomaso_mangusta_01s.jpg)

Group 4 131 Abarth (http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_EiV0Q4N_Og0/S_yJ2qeDS6I/AAAAAAAAC74/q3USltaXGes/s1600/1976_131AbarthRally.jpeg)

stratosfear
08-11-2012, 21:38
Here we go:

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BAS
08-11-2012, 21:40
I think I may have to get a set!!!:D

Allora#2
08-11-2012, 21:41
ok,
i show you all a picture with them, and what is the opinion?

ProtoTipo
08-11-2012, 21:43
I think I may have to get a set!!!:D

Brent,
See PM.

stratosfear
08-11-2012, 21:43
I dig it! Looks killer!

ProtoTipo
08-11-2012, 21:48
ok,
i show you all a picture with them, and what is the opinion?

Now I remember why René asked me if I had 270 TBs on the rear of my Stradale.

I think the wheels look great Enzo. The design is 100% true to the original Campag.

BAS
08-11-2012, 22:08
I think you've answered your own question, but I'd say they are spot on and you should be very happy with them.



ok,
i show you all a picture with them, and what is the opinion?

BAS
08-11-2012, 22:10
So, what size rims tyres and off set did you go for?

Guy Mayers
08-11-2012, 22:18
Love them - I might have to tell Gerry he needs a set but don't hold your breath - I doubt he'll swap the coffin spokes off his Giro d'Italia car!

Guy

Rene
08-11-2012, 22:59
I know that car :o
Enzo, you bad bad boy! Posting pictures of my car, taken by John Whalley himself, I do not even have the copyright to them :)

I was going to wait untll the old Lancia "L" centerbadge was in place and the campagnolo stickers.....

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Car on the left is John Griffin´s pride and joy.

Since Compomotive makes both Gerry´s and Group4wheels rims, I ordered the PAG 15 to the same specs as the coffinspokes.
So the Pag in the picture is satin gold, 15" x 8" with 5x98mm pcd, et00.
And the tires are as Chris is saying 3/62-15 TB15 (270/45/15) at the rear and 18/60-15 TB15 (215/55/15) in front.

Going to put the Pirelli P7 corsa classic on the coffinspokes and use them for the track.

Regards

René

Allora#2
08-11-2012, 23:10
Rene,

Yes i am a bad boy, but i need a answer because i will help Marcolino to decide
which wheels we use for the EX Chris Prototipo Stratos.

but what i can see on the pictures, you did a very good job!
i hope you are not angry with me.

Enzo :rolleyes:

BAS
08-11-2012, 23:18
Rene, thanks for posting the info.

Enzo, sorry I thought that was your car.

Rene
08-11-2012, 23:23
i hope you are not angry with me.

Enzo :rolleyes:

No problem Enzo.

Even had to see what they would look like on the Merak when i got home.
IMHO wrong colour, but right design.
And with Michelin XVX they would just look great...

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Regards

René

Monte76
08-11-2012, 23:29
Those wheels look great, I'd love to build one of Gerry's new Giro cars especially with a set of them on.

There's certainly a great choice of rims and tyres available these days.

Vince.

ChrisCar6
09-11-2012, 00:12
Oooh, they're lurvely!

Elliott
09-11-2012, 09:10
I can't see a price on the thread. Are they available to buy? If so, where from and how much? What sizes are available?

:D

Allora#2
09-11-2012, 09:38
I can't see a price on the thread. Are they available to buy? If so, where from and how much? What sizes are available?

:D

http://www.group4wheels.com/

Rene
09-11-2012, 09:42
http://www.group4wheels.com/wheels.html should get you covered.
Jonathan Sage is also a true enthusiast and a pleasure to deal with.

I have no comercial interrest in the company, but I think they are doing a great job getting those old design reproduced.

Regards

René

Elliott
09-11-2012, 10:13
Thanks guys.

:)

ProtoTipo
09-11-2012, 11:27
It's great to see something new and truly authentic, but coffin spokes still have the edge? (I prefer the look of TBs to Pirellis too)

Rene
09-11-2012, 11:38
It's great to see something new and truly authentic, but coffin spokes still have the edge? (I prefer the look of TBs to Pirellis too)

Like discussing girls ;)

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I am not sure, I will have to let them grow on me both. But since I was not sure, I just had to get both.

On the tires, I totaly agree on looks. The baloon sidewall and threadpattern on the TBs looks just great for a Strdale.
Preformanvice, it have not tried them yet, but plan to use TBs for road and Pirelli on the track.

Just 4.5 hours untill the weekend.....

Regards

René

Allora#2
09-11-2012, 15:40
i think Gerry is be greedy! Coffin Spoke are too expensive
that's way i bought my rims in Italy
and i think Jonathan Sage (Group 4 Wheels) take a real price for his rims.
but it's always a price and matter of taste like other things also.

nice weekend

Saluti Enzo :p

The Slug
09-11-2012, 16:38
Can I just say Welcome to our new user on the site Jonathan (Group 4 wheels) you have started a good debate on your wheels now...
What about a discount for Club members????

All the best and enjoy the site

Elliott
09-11-2012, 17:07
Welcome to the forum, Jonathan. I shall be in contact with you to discuss buying a set in the new year, that's for sure.

(Anyone want to buy two sets of compomotive 1580s? ) :D

strat24v
09-11-2012, 18:49
Great looking wheels.

The Slug
09-11-2012, 19:40
Hi All,

I do not wish to offend the site administrators by actively selling on the forum but am happy to answer any questions, technical or otherwise you may have about our wheels.


Regards

Jonathan

Trust us Jonathan, we are never offended when you offer the club a discount......

Monte76
09-11-2012, 22:12
Don't worry, I'll never get bored of looking at those early cars and those wheels suit the car so well.

Thanks for making these available.

Vince.

The Slug
09-11-2012, 22:36
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This one, sorry about the size!!

Monte76
09-11-2012, 22:36
I didn't realise they developed a 4 wheel steer Strato's :D:

http://vincesgallery.smugmug.com/Other/Web-Images/i-xxQtQcH/0/L/image%2520lancia%25201972%2520RALLY-L.jpg

The Slug
09-11-2012, 22:38
And Another one

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3356

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Had enough yet?

Monte76
09-11-2012, 22:39
This colour scheme really suits this early car:

http://vincesgallery.smugmug.com/Other/Web-Images/i-WQhgCdD/0/L/tn08B-L.jpg

Monte76
09-11-2012, 22:41
Nice wheels Ian but wrong style, put your specs on :p.

The Slug
09-11-2012, 22:48
Nice wheels Ian but wrong style, put your specs on :p.

Which one's wrong???? all look the same to me....
at least the car has the same wrong one's on all round....lol

Monte76
09-11-2012, 22:53
None of those you've posted are the same style as the Group 4 Wheels, they've got a double web per spoke instead of the single web as those offered.

They're close but not the same wheel.

Vince.

The Slug
09-11-2012, 22:57
See Jonathan,

Told You I would be wrong....lol....

I will delete them if you like or leave as an example what not to post....opps!!

But arn't they on a GP4 car's so are just as genuine? the first photo is the 75 RAC car so is a works car.
You never know Jonathan might be able to do those as well..!

Monte76
09-11-2012, 23:03
The Devils in the detail.

If you chaps over at Group 4 Wheels ever need a new project, I'd love a set of these Campagnolo's to have some fun with:

http://vincesgallery.smugmug.com/Other/Web-Images/i-DcbxZBL/0/XL/VRA_2452B%20-%20Copy-XL.jpg

The Slug
09-11-2012, 23:18
Hi Slug,

Could the wheel you're refering to be from a Ferrari Dino?

Regards

Jonathan

I don't know but if you decide to do this one let me know,

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All the best
Ian

BAS
09-11-2012, 23:22
Hi Jonathan,

Glad you've joined in on this thread and thanks for your time on the phone this afternoon, I have sent you a Private Message.

Brent.

Monte76
09-11-2012, 23:23
Here's a better shot of the wheel Ian:

http://vincesgallery.smugmug.com/Other/Web-Images/i-vrk598c/0/L/1975rac02lanciastratosbgu5%20-%20Copy-L.jpg


The rear wheel on both cars is a completley different style:

http://vincesgallery.smugmug.com/Other/Web-Images/i-pZgnpdC/0/L/STRATOSWALDEGARDKENYA1975-L.jpg

Guy Mayers
09-11-2012, 23:25
Hi All,

Been doing a little research. Have some more but don't want to bore you.


Regards

Jonathan

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Just love the B&W pictured car, I always preferred the flat periscope air duct over the upright one Gerry did! Like Vince I'd love to build one of these and it would have to have the new wheels!

Keep the pics coming!

Guy

The Slug
10-11-2012, 01:43
Here's a better shot of the wheel Ian:



Thanks Vince,
Much better pic than mine.

Yes, a different wheel but just as valid as a genuine used style, just need to find a manufactuer now....
Now if Group 4 Wheels or someone else made your set and mine what a choice builders would have.... We can dream....lol

Fingers
10-11-2012, 08:49
Those wheels on the front are the Cromodoras from the Fiat Dino aren't they? And the rears are Campagnolo Ragno's I think. That's in the picture above.

strat24v
10-11-2012, 10:53
First time ive seen a pic that shows those rear arches like that. If it had a running board you could then see the logical design procession to the turbo circuit racer.

Monte76
10-11-2012, 13:07
I thought I'd seen most variations but that's a completely new one to me, especially with that rear wheel arch treatment, good find.

Vince.

Allora#2
10-11-2012, 17:56
Hi Guy,s and Jonathan,

i bring this discussion only on the way to help Marcolino to decide that the PAG 15 wheels are also very nice on a Stratos.

And now Marcolino have decided to take 8"x15 in front and 9"x15 on the rear axle.

@ Jonathan i take the mesurements on Monday in my workshop and send you e-mail

and by the way we talk about the rims for the Fiat 131 Abarth.

grazie e saluti Enzo

davehanman
11-11-2012, 14:11
On the RAC 75 and Safari cars that Vince posted up earlier in the thread, the front wheel is Cromodora 14" (as per ferrari Dino), and the rear is an aftermarket Campy 14" Rim, (also for Dino). Of course, brake sizing is compromised using these wheels, which is why they're not seen so often on the '76 cars (though Waldegard still used them for Safari in 1976)

David

BAS
15-11-2012, 23:46
I'm just trying to compare my Compomotive Split rims with the PAG's and the Hawk Coffin Spokes and would like to know the offset / ET measurement for the coffin spokes 12" and 8", anyone know?

Allora#2
16-11-2012, 08:59
Hi,

the ET measurement for the coffin spokes are:

ET -34 (12" rim)
ET 10 (8"rim)

Enzo

BAS
16-11-2012, 13:30
Thanks Enzo, I'll see how they compare.

Rene
16-11-2012, 14:22
Could it be that the ET on the 8" coffinspoke could be different from manufacturer to manufacturer?

I discussed with Gerry H, Jonathan at G4W and Barry at Compomotive to get my PAG 15 in 8" to be the same as Gerry H Coffinspoke wheels.
And the number that came up on the 8" is ET 00 so my PAG 15 is ET 00

However I need a small spacer in front on the PAG wheels to clear the calipper so a bot more posetive offset would have been great, but they are perfect for the rear with the TB15´s in 270 width, filling it out.
John Whalley have not tried on the coffinspokes yet, so should find out soon if I need a spacer on the front to clear the calipper on them as well.

Have a good weekend!

Regards

René

Allora#2
16-11-2012, 14:53
Hi René,

i did also measure ET 0 but Gerry say it's ET 10

i think it's always better to mount the brakes and take the measurements!
and to order like them.

i do that with my TMB rim's! on my Allora.

and Jonathan make it also like your measurements if they are in to the available dimensions.

PAG 15 wheel Spec
Diameter 15"
Width 8"
Offset -24 to +12
PCD Various

i mean that's the best solution, Enzo

strat24v
16-11-2012, 15:07
its correct to mount the wheels then fit the brakes to suit after, otherwise you alter the track, scrub radius and a whole host of other things. Geometry first, brake package after.

Allora#2
16-11-2012, 15:39
its correct to mount the wheels then fit the brakes to suit after, otherwise you alter the track, scrub radius and a whole host of other things. Geometry first, brake package after.

no it's better to mount first brakes and than make the wheel so you can stay into the
track width!

if you make first the rims and than you need a spacer to have some clearance to the brake than you are out of the track width!

than you have the problem with the track width, scrub radius and a whole host of other things.

Enzo

strat24v
16-11-2012, 15:56
what youre saying is make cast wheels at umpteen thousands of cost to fit round a one off brake setup that cost maybe three hundred quid and nobody else may use?? You normally find the wheels are made already to suit the track and geometry of the vehicle, youd make the upgraded brakes to suit. Guess its just easier to make some flat plates to mount the calipers then stick a 25mm spacer between that and the disc bell.(but not for me)

strat24v
16-11-2012, 16:18
Here we go, correct way.

If we are starting with say a group 4 stratos replica rear with the consortiums wheels (see what i did there!)You have your chassis, suspension, geometry, wheels, hubs already supplied. Rather than make flat plates for the calipers and stick big spacers behind the wheel to get your caliper clearance, what you do is choose your disc diameter and calipers effective diameter so you know the wheel will go over it, that caliper will then be inset so it doesn't foul the rim anywhere, you then take dimensions to mount the caliper in position , after that, you choose a disc or have bells made to put the disc in the correct position to fit with the caliper. If not you end up with the Carlos Fandango look which looks like they dont know what they are doing. Not too hard to download some free CAD software, draw it all out, then select the brake calipers and discs, bells. Think thats the White/Halstead way of doing it, rather than buying something that doesnt fit, then making it fit (sort of)

Allora#2
16-11-2012, 16:47
correct way for an Hawk that's right!
but with this way you can not mounted Hawk coffin spoke wheels on an Corse or Allora
i build first the brakes and than TMB make the rims with my measurements so i stay in to the track wide!

BTW i have ordered the PAG 15 in 8x15 ET 0 front and 9x15 ET-12 rear for the Marcolino Stratos Prototipo.

strat24v
16-11-2012, 18:08
So by doing that, does your king pin inclination point meet the tire centre at the ground?

Allora#2
16-11-2012, 19:04
"The steering axis inclination determines, together with the caster, the resetting forces and the camber of the steered wheels,
also, together with the wheel-rim offset, influences the steering offset."

"The caster generally describes the distance that the tyre travels after it's track point."

i know what you mean but my Allora is a Replica and i have no works settings.

so i have do my best to stay into the axis inclination determines, together with the caster and wheel-rim offset,
and i am a little out of king pin so i have reset forces of the steered wheels only by full impact of the steerring wheel

but the straight run and the brakes from Delta Integrale are perfect!
and that is what i need.

I hope the translation it's correct!

Enzo

john
16-11-2012, 19:10
So by doing that, does your king pin inclination point meet the tire centre at the ground?
That's an "ideal" situation tho', is it not?
Did original cars have zero scrub radius?

Strat Fan
16-11-2012, 23:33
That's an "ideal" situation tho', is it not?
Did original cars have zero scrub radius?

Subjective topic of course but I am led to believe that some scrub radius is better than none. I believe Lee Noble tried zero king pin offset on the Ascari & it did not work, very light steering yes but no feel/feedback.
The amount of offset used is dictated by many things but I would say that with the design of the original Stratos coffin spoke wheels (Front ET of 7mm I think) then there would always be some if not a lot of king pin offset present. I would hazard a guess that this is why the original cars uprights were modified to give 9 degrees (?) of king pin angle to help keep the offset to a minimum.
I have no knowledge of the Allora front suspension other than early cars ran Lada top wishbones but on the Corse the solution for the deepest dish wheel is simply to mount the brake disc as close as possible to the bottom ball joint (Whilst allowing for lock & travel), fit the slimmest brake caliper possible (If using a 4 pot dsisgn) & then have the wheel positioned so that is has the minimum necessary clearance from the caliper to the back of the spoke. Front Corse Rims are supposed to be ET38mm so the 15" Coffin spokes simply don't fit full stop.
On the contrary to all of this the Ultima has the worst scrub radius of any car I have ever worked on but doesn't seem to suffer any detremental effect.

GrahamH
17-11-2012, 10:31
You need some scrub radius present as mentioned above. This would have been different on the works cars than Hawk as they have a modified front upright giving more KPI giving better turn in on tight corners. As many have said above the best way to go about wheels and brakes is that its the wheel that drives what size brake you can fit. By that I mean you decide and rim dia and width and offsets based on your suspension geom, c of G, etc. not all 15" rims are the same so spoke clearance on the inside can catch you out with different wheels. Your brakes should also be sized front to rear for the C of G , master cyl sizes, car mass etc, and not just the largest you can fit inside the wheel. Not sure if we can get it organised, but a 2D template of the inside of the PAG15 and coffin spokes would be helpful to all. Could be avail to all and used for brake packaging and wheel choice. Also a worthy note the closer the caliper to the wheel rim the more likely you can get a stone stuck between the caliper and rim. On GT.race cars they often run stone scrapers, small kevlar blades attached to the caliper.

GrahamH
17-11-2012, 15:51
Thats great Jonathan, should help alot. Are the circuit/race versions just lightened road wheels as they dont need the long term fatigue factors and durabilty?

BAS
25-11-2012, 16:29
Ok I've been busy with tape measure trying to work out the off set's to order for the PAG's.

My current setup is:-

Image split rims

Front 8x15 ET -14mm
Rear 12x15 ET -26mm with 9mm spacers so -35mm

There seems to be some confusion regarding the Hawk Coffin Spokes ET measurements, but what I would say is that if a possitive ET was used on the front the wheel rim would run very close the top ball joint, with an ET 0 the clearance on my car using 4 stud hubs and Thema Turbo disks would only be 2-3mm to the ball joint cover and approx 6mm to the joint.

I don't know if the 5 stud conversion has a different hub face position to my set up, could someone with the coffins on measure the distance between the wheel rim and the top ball joint on a Hawk to confirm my findings.





Hi,

the ET measurement for the coffin spokes are:

ET -34 (12" rim)
ET 10 (8"rim)

Enzo

GrahamH
26-11-2012, 11:33
5 stud coffins are ET0 and ET-50 as stamped on the wheels. Not sure how accurate these figures acually are as I measured the rear rim and worked it to out be ET45. Will double check.

Strat Fan
26-11-2012, 12:47
I agree with Graham, Hawk wheels are- Front ET 0, Rear ET -45.
Roin Technologies wheels are- Front ET 7, Rear ET -36.5,
TMB Racing are quoted as- Front ET 21(?), Rear ET -32.
Not sure what is going on with the TMB fronts. All are listed as 8 x 15" Front, 12 x 15" rear.
Roin also do a 9 x 15" ET -14.7 & a 10 x 15" ET -25.

BAS
27-11-2012, 00:01
With the rear ET -45 for the coffin's this would explain why I can't fit my Leada struts. with 345's and the ET -35 the tyre rubs the strut body.:(

ChrisCar6
29-11-2012, 18:16
I have several sets of Revolution wheels of different ages - all 8" with ET0. On the front some need 10mm, some 5mm and some no spacer to clear the caliper!

BAS
01-12-2012, 13:44
Thanks to Chris Deering for letting me take some measurements off his Hawk front 5 stud hubs and his coffin spokes, the hub dims match with my car but interestingly the ET marked on the inside of one of the spokes says ET -1.5, it's a bit difficult to confirm this with the tyre fitted but from the measurements taken they did seem to have an ET -1.5.

This seems to match with my findings so I think I'll use an ET -1.5 for the 8" PAG's.

Just need to sort out the ET for 10" Rears now.




Ok I've been busy with tape measure trying to work out the off set's to order for the PAG's.

My current setup is:-

Image split rims

Front 8x15 ET -14mm
Rear 12x15 ET -26mm with 9mm spacers so -35mm

There seems to be some confusion regarding the Hawk Coffin Spokes ET measurements, but what I would say is that if a possitive ET was used on the front the wheel rim would run very close the top ball joint, with an ET 0 the clearance on my car using 4 stud hubs and Thema Turbo disks would only be 2-3mm to the ball joint cover and approx 6mm to the joint.

I don't know if the 5 stud conversion has a different hub face position to my set up, could someone with the coffins on measure the distance between the wheel rim and the top ball joint on a Hawk to confirm my findings.

Allora#2
04-12-2012, 10:42
I agree with Graham, Hawk wheels are- Front ET 0, Rear ET -45.
Roin Technologies wheels are- Front ET 7, Rear ET -36.5,
TMB Racing are quoted as- Front ET 21(?), Rear ET -32.
Not sure what is going on with the TMB fronts. All are listed as 8 x 15" Front, 12 x 15" rear.
Roin also do a 9 x 15" ET -14.7 & a 10 x 15" ET -25.

Hi Craig,
my current setup about the TMB Racing is Front ET 19 and Rear ET-34 the ET make on order!
with Michelin TB15 Front 18/60/15 (215/55/15) and Rear 26/21/15 (295/40/15)
Enzo

BTW, to be on order by "group4wheels" for Marcolino Prtotipo Stratos PAG 8 & 9 x15 front ET 0 and rear ET-12

BAS
06-12-2012, 13:50
Calling all round arch grp4 car's, if you fitted 10" rears what ET did you use?

Allora#2
17-12-2012, 18:22
the rims for Marcolino Stratos are arrived now and
i am speechless that looks fantastic, thanks to Jonathan
http://www.group4wheels.com/index.php
i post picture soon.

Enzo :)

BAS
17-12-2012, 19:05
Can't wait to see mine!!

Allora#2
28-12-2012, 21:08
the rims for Marcolino Stratos are arrived now and
i am speechless that looks fantastic, thanks to Jonathan
http://www.group4wheels.com/index.php
i post picture soon.

Enzo :)

here they are the promised pictures on Group4wheels side!
http://www.group4wheels.com/customers.php
thanks Jonathan.

Allora#2
08-01-2013, 13:40
Pag's on Porsche and Fiat 131 Abarth Gr.4!
looks also very nice.
it's possible next time i take them for my 131 Abarth Gr.4

Enzo :)

BAS
22-02-2013, 00:38
My wheels arrived yesterday, very pleased with them. I've yet to try them on the car and also need to get some tyres.

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BAS
03-03-2013, 16:54
Look for tyres I came across Avon CR500 http://www.avonmotorsport.com/road-legal/performance/cr500 should fit 8x15 and 10x15 anyone tried them out?

Strat Fan
03-03-2013, 22:02
I would say that they are too small personally, in both width & diameter. The rear particularly would be very stretched on a 10" rim, diameter wise the Michelin 295/40/15 is listed as 615mm diameter, in reality this measures more like 607mm when stretched onto the 12" rim, the front Michelin 215/55/15 lists as 612mm diameter but measures around 606mm when fitted. The Avons list at 551mm & 572mm respectively.

BAS
04-03-2013, 00:04
Thanks Craig,

Avon spec sheet does say that 195 45 R15 fit rims 6.5 to 8" and the 245 40 R15 8 to 10" so they are within range and shouldn't be to stretched, similar to a 295 on a 12", but the overall diameter is a bit of issue.

ChrisCar6
04-03-2013, 08:34
I think they'd look lost in the arches - particularly the front. My 585 diameter ones already look on the small side.

Strat Fan
04-03-2013, 10:01
Hi Brent,

Yes, I know they are within the permitted rim range & I appreciate that the 295 on a 12" is also actually beyond its permitted specified rim, so they would fit but the diameter is the real main issue A 205/50/15 (Chris's size ?) lists at 587mm on the Toyo site & that's about as small as people have fitted in the past. 600mm to 620mm for the rear is pretty much where you want to be looking. A phone call to Longstone for some Michelins will save you a lot of aggro, you have the choice of the 270 or the 295 rear on the 10" rim. Unless those Yokos are still available that Chris flagged up but even then you won't be able to get a replacement should you ever need it.

Cheers

ChrisCar6
04-03-2013, 17:55
Yes, I'm 15" 205/50 front & 225/45 rear. Good for acceleration though!

Allora#2
05-07-2013, 12:18
some goodies for my 131 Abarth Gr.4 are arrived from group 4 wheels thanks Jonathan!
if also the tyres arrived i will mounted directly
the rim are 9" front and 10" rear pictures will follow

Enzo :o

Allora#2
06-07-2013, 11:21
here the first pictures with the PAG rims once again thanks to Jonathan! :)

Monte76
06-07-2013, 11:43
Looks fantastic, if I had the garage space spare I'd love a Fiat 131 Abarth, especially an Alitalia version, those wheels really suit the cars.

Most envious.

Vince.

ProtoTipo
07-07-2013, 09:19
Looks fantastic, if I had the garage space spare I'd love a Fiat 131 Abarth,
Vince.

I can get you one Vince?
Seriously.

Monte76
07-07-2013, 19:26
Hi Chris,

I'm intrigued, can you PM me some details.

Vince.

ProtoTipo
08-07-2013, 08:54
Hi Chris,

I'm intrigued, can you PM me some details.

Vince.

Yes, 'will do.

Chris

Allora#2
09-10-2015, 11:26
RSD rallysport-development was on Eifel rallye this year! (PAG 15)

ProtoTipo
09-10-2015, 12:03
RSD rallysport-development was on Eifel rallye this year! (PAG 15)

I'm still waiting to be paid for that Alitalia livery!

Allora#2
02-12-2015, 10:11
Raimund and i on hill climb event! :o

pim
12-01-2016, 20:03
Hi Enzo,

Good to see the ex again, how is it doing and how is Raimund. Give him my regards if you see him. :)

GrahamH
13-01-2016, 14:27
Wheels do look great, tempted to get some for the strat. must be a fair bit lighter than the heavy compomotive Hawk wheels.

Marcolino
15-01-2016, 06:29
Yepp, they look great ;-)

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