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bosmass
08-08-2013, 17:45
Are these just lying around for people waiting to be found?:)http://www.autoblog.com/2013/08/08/1973-lancia-stratos-barn-find/

ProtoTipo
08-08-2013, 18:34
Wow,

Spot the incorrect and/or missing parts?
Fiat Dino air box for starters.....

Jeff
08-08-2013, 21:53
There's a lot of "how was the original done?" type questions that can be answered by the photographs, or perhaps not going by what Chris implies...

ProtoTipo
08-08-2013, 23:15
There's a lot of "how was the original done?" type questions that can be answered by the photographs, or perhaps not going by what Chris implies...

Not including the colour coded spoilers and the re-trimmed seats, I can see 10 things that are not as standard for a Stradale.

ChrisCar6
08-08-2013, 23:41
Extra handbrake type warning light on dash.
Horn doesn't look right in front
Passenger side door mirror
exhaust system
Ferrari badges
front fog lights

How am I doing?

Monte76
08-08-2013, 23:54
Sounds like a challenge Chris, here is my list of anomalies:


Extra handbrake type warning light on dash
Gear knob
Passenger side door mirror
Exhaust system
Ferrari badges
Front fog lights
Front indicators
Air Filter
Fuel tank breather hose
Side indicators incorrectly located
Black painted fuel filler caps


How am I doing?

Strat Fan
09-08-2013, 00:30
What Chris R says-

Extra warning light on dash,
Red non standard horns up front,
Additional door mirror
Non standard exhaust system
Ferrari badges on nose section
Incorrect front Fog lights.

Some crossover here with Vince too but I'm just a slow typer
Can I have a stab at-
Incorrect front indicators
Wrongly positioned side repeaters
Front tyres look to be oversize
Front mudflaps fitted
I can't see any Zeus fasteners on the nose section but that might just be the camera angles.
Dash binnacle looks to be very flat edged but again could be camera angle
gear lever gaiter looks wrong

Jeff
09-08-2013, 03:34
I'll get my coat then....

bosmass
09-08-2013, 05:02
Seems like so many of these have had odd maintenance done to them on an effort to just get it back on the road. Maybe they just weren't worth the investment back in the day.

Paul
09-08-2013, 07:02
That's a total of 3 for sale in Monterrey next weekend now: http://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/?q=lancia+stratos&search_context=2Fcarsforsale%2F

ProtoTipo
09-08-2013, 08:22
You've all got 'eagle' eyes, and you're seeing some new ones. I didn't notice the horns, and I'll have another look for dzus fasteners.
I've seen a black gearstick knob like that before, and a similar gator, so I wasn't including either of those two. I didn't count the Ferrari stickers (why do they stick those on?) Fuel caps shouldn't be black, that's correct too.
No, here are the 10 I'd seen:

1. Air Box
2. Side repeaters in wrong position
3. Front indicators wrong
4. Front fogs wrong
5. Front nose badge wrong type
6. Hazard rocker switch
7. Extra handbrake type lamp
8. 'BERTONE' sticker is wrong
9. Both driver's and passenger side mirrors are wrong (that's a Beta one on the driver's side too)
10. Exhaust

Sando
09-08-2013, 08:30
http://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/?q=lancia+stratos&search_context=2Fcarsforsale%2F

Be interesting to see what they go for.
I've recently heard through the Grapevine that the Stradale owned by former club member Tony Graham is shortly going up for sale in the uk with a £250k price tag. It has some history with the Stuck family, but group 4 cars were that price not long ago.

Skelly
09-08-2013, 10:08
Must have been on top gear, wiper blade has fallen off

ProtoTipo
09-08-2013, 11:11
I can't see any Zeus fasteners on the nose section but that might just be the camera angles.


Yep, you're right Craig, Dzus fasteners have gone missing. It's a longer list than I thought?
The front tyres are the right size. I think they just look odd in the photo of the front compartment. I'm amazed how they found room in the front for the full spare 7.5 wheel with 205/70 tyre on the original cars.
I've never seen a Stradale this rough. Plenty of group 4s!

Strat Fan
09-08-2013, 12:02
The front tyres are the right size. I think they just look odd in the photo of the front compartment. I'm amazed how they found room in the front for the full spare 7.5 wheel with 205/70 tyre on the original cars.


I looked at the picture of the car in side profile & its hard to believe that it is possible to achieve any wheel lock with a wheel/tyre that diameter positioned like that in the arch. The tyre also looks awfully fat in the under bonnet position which made me think it was oversize.

I looked at the switches & thought they were in a non standard order but missed the Hazard switch "Amateur!"

ProtoTipo
09-08-2013, 15:14
The tyres are 14", but the rolling diameter is huge.
The 15" TB15 that people use on the front is 224mm section and 612mm rolling diameter.
The XWX 205/70/14 has a smaller 209mm section, but a much larger 644mm rolling diameter.
I know that similarly shod GT4 Ferraris don't have much lock, so maybe this 70 series tyre diameter is the reason? 'Footwells right on the front axle line, and all that.
A lot of 308 owners change to 16" rims and lower profile tyres, but I love the period look of the 14" tyres on those and the Stradale Stratos.

Sando
09-08-2013, 15:43
Those Pirelli XR's I used for Chatsworth are 648. Could just get full lock on rims with 0 offset but rubbed bulkhead on lock over bumps till they wore down a bit. Had to also trim the front of the wheelarch by a few mm too. Actually handled sweet on them though so KPI must have been right for the taller profile.

I like the look with the taller tyres too. It just suits the car design. Low profile road wheels look puny in camparison

ChrisCar6
09-08-2013, 18:56
My theory is that this car has had a front end shunt. Hence wrong lights / badge / dzus.

Guy Mayers
09-08-2013, 20:29
Nobody spotted the high level brake light? Guess a lot of it is the "federalisation?"

tipo158
10-08-2013, 16:39
I'm surprised that no one mentioned the most glaring mis-information. It is listed as a 1972 Stratos, there were no Strstos built in 1972. Body shell #3 is consider the first Startos built, in was completed in October of 1973, body shell #5 was next and it was completed in November of 1973. All the rest were built in 1974 and later.

ChrisCar6
10-08-2013, 17:34
The other one, the "Attractive, largely unrestored Stradale" seems to have had a fair bit of body and paintwork done.

tomsredstratos
17-08-2013, 09:20
Sold for £168,859

Tom

Bernard
21-08-2013, 15:59
Red Grp4 conversion with chin spoiler sold for 376,750 dollars (£240k)

bosmass
21-08-2013, 18:20
I wonder what a true grp 4 with documented racing history would go for then?

ChrisCar6
21-08-2013, 23:33
i wonder what a true grp 4 with documented racing history would go for then?

0.5m?

Bernard
22-08-2013, 08:18
I wonder what a true grp 4 with documented racing history would go for then?

there has been the odd one now and then............ £500k plus ??

Actually sat in Munari's "most winning" chassis many years ago in a private collection in Italy.................... haven't wiped mi bum since !!... LOL

Phil

StruanR
22-08-2013, 11:24
... take £500k for either of mine ... :)