Green Prototipo

[ProtoTipo]

I've been looking at building one of these for a while now...

X1/9 twin cam (http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C462814)

[ProtoTipo]

This one is exactly right.

X1/9 Prototipo (http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C454583)

Targa Florio Cars also have the UK one with the Minilite style wheels for sale. £POA

[john]

Chris,
that's a good project to have in mind.
I think Guy Moerenhout does the panels?
Over the last couple of years X19's seem to have gone up in value (or asking price at least.....), according to what's listed on ebay.

[Guy Mayers]

Probably cheaper to buy one that's been done already and improve gradually? Polish one does look very good!

[ProtoTipo]

Probably cheaper to buy one that's been done already and improve gradually? Polish one does look very good!

I can't afford one that's already done Guy.


Chris,
that's a good project to have in mind.
I think Guy Moerenhout does the panels?


The panels on the green one are from Guy Moerenhout.
The original arches should be alloy, and I'll guess that his are grp.?

[ProtoTipo]

I think this one won't be rusty?
Blue X1/9 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FIAT-X1-9-Bertone-Grand-Finale-700-miles-only-Brand-new-/221352651343?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item3389a56a4f)

[Guy Mayers]

I think this one won't be rusty?
Blue X1/9 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FIAT-X1-9-Bertone-Grand-Finale-700-miles-only-Brand-new-/221352651343?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item3389a56a4f)

That one has been on the market a while now Chris. Whilst it's probably the best out there I suspect that once it's on the road again it's going to show lots of faults caused by perished rubber hoses, suspension components and brake seals….

Plus it would be a shame to convert it!

Guy

[ProtoTipo]

I wasn't serious about that one Guy.
It doesn't want touching, that one?

Something in the £1500 bracket would probably be best. Not a basket case, but not too good either.

[Fingers]

Never seen one in green before, I like it. Here's a picture I took a few years ago of one of the three local replicas. I'll see if I can find out where they got their body kits from and take a few more pictures. The annual meet that this was taken at was is in a couple of weeks. I'm amazed at how quick these are, I think they're my second favourite wedge!

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More pictures here. http://www.flickr.com/photos/warwickrobinson/sets/. Look for the Skope Classic sets, even a Mclaren can am car!

[ProtoTipo]

If you've got around 150 to 180 bhp and 800 kilos or less, it's going to fly?
Bertone were geared up to produce a homologation run, but the plug was pulled. One Stradale was produced and it lives in the US. The Stradale is red with silver/grey body attachments.
All four rally cars had no outer door handles (so more to go round for the Stratos?). Three of the cars had the 124 Abarth 16v cylinder heads, and one 16v with Kugelfisher injection. The fourth car had the more common 8v head. Power ranged from 170 to 210 bhp.

[Guy Mayers]

Here's a donor in Germany Chris, engine damaged, doesn't know what's wrong, no bumpers, underside is solid but windscreen frame needs work. 6 hours from Calais.

http://www.ebay.de/itm/Fiat-x-1-9-/221356102792?pt=Automobile&hash=item338

Or another one that looks too nice to convert?

http://annunci.ebay.it/annunci/auto/forli-cesena-annunci-forli/fiat-x1-9/60193202

Guy

[ProtoTipo]

Or another one that looks too nice to convert?
Guy

Standard early cars are so much nicer aren't they. 'Smaller bumpers, lower engine cover.... 'Like the Cromodoras with chrome caps too.

[Guy Mayers]

They are Chris! if it's still for sale in September why not pop down to Rally Legends and pick it up on the way home? :rolleyes:

Guy

[ProtoTipo]

It's always the same isn't it?
You could put together quite a big list of car models, where the earliest have the best aesthetics, while the later versions have the stronger running gear, and hopefully, better build quality?

[Guy Mayers]

Mmmm. Beta HPE, first one, a 1978 car with mustard interior and chrome door mirrors vs two later HPE VX's.

The first car had by far the best bodywork but the VX was the quicker car by a long way. Money no object I'd have another one tomorrow so long as I had somewhere dry for a garage! Or maybe two and get Geoff to graft in some Integrale running gear. That would make an interesting Q car!

Guy

[StruanR]

Made a few generous donations to the distressed Stratos restoration fund, but otherwise not too far gone, sitting in the barn.
Could be a Prototipo donor....:rolleyes:

[ProtoTipo]

Made a few generous donations to the distressed Stratos restoration fund, but otherwise not too far gone, sitting in the barn.
Could be a Prototipo donor....:rolleyes:

Get thee behind me!!

It would make a donor, I reckon?

[Fingers]

Are these of any help Chris?
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6040
6041
6042
A couple of photos of the local replicas, they did get their body kits from Guy Mourenhout. They've also built a Dino 206sp replica that wasn't being raced this year, it's very detailed right down to part numbers in castings.

[Fingers]

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6044

[ProtoTipo]

Thanks Paul,

'Interesting.

The wheel arches are grp on those. The originals had alloy arches. I notice some variations on the engine covers too.
'Later type 16v (Thema/Integrale) type engine fitted too (carbs and exhaust the opposite way round to a Beta/Monte/124/131 etc.) So they'll be quick?

[Fingers]

Yes, I'm not sure how accurate they wanted to be with these cars, two have been around for quite a few years now, at least 15. The husband and wife drive those. The third is driven by the son and is relatively new. Hers still has an 8v engine from a Beta. They are pretty quick, running middle to top of the fields they compete in. The fields are determined by lap time more than anything else, so there's a wide variety. Hard to know what to compare them too really. They are faster around the track than their 348 and 355. Yes these people have far too much money. He also has two e36 European touring cars.

Oh yeah, no McLaren can am car this year which was a surprise, there normally an M8A. There was a McLaren M22 in the formula 5000 race mixed in with a while heap of Lola T332's etc.