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ProtoTipo
25-04-2014, 10:29
Consider the tooling costs, before you say "HOW MUCH?!"

(Group 4 Upright (http://www.bielstein.com/lancia/stratos/radtrager-achsschenkel-stratos-hinten))

strat24v
25-04-2014, 13:15
Fully understand the costs. Selling half a dozen a year isn't going to make him rich.

jeffdavison
29-04-2014, 22:44
Is the cost for a single or for a pair?

JD

pim
30-04-2014, 05:57
Costs for one piece: "menge": 1

strat24v
01-05-2014, 15:20
Roberto had them for maybe 1500 euros each iirc??

LM mic
22-05-2016, 19:38
If some members will be interested Marvic is ok to do avery small batch ( mini 2 or 3 pairs) for something like 1000euros each (plus Vat)

Only issue I see is sourcing shock absorbers to match and adapt the top of each brand of chassis ( Allora , Hawk etc !!)

strat24v
22-05-2016, 23:49
Any idea of cost for the bearing and hub?

LM mic
23-05-2016, 12:32
At the moment no ; as am trying to source eventual drawings or part to be borrow and then redraw all stuff in 3D

Otherwise there is a company there selling Titanium who did a set of titanium hubs and cv joint splined carrier and the set was more close to 11 000 /12000 euros !!!!!!!! Crazy !
I asked ( as I know their boss ) if it was possible to get drawings !!!! :cool: am still waiting the reply ;):rolleyes:
Years ago I did apost on this subject :there was this link

http://www.titane-services.eu/epages...lancia-stratos (http://www.titane-services.eu/epages/230155.sf/fr_FR/?ObjectPath=/Shops/230155/Products/transmission-titane-lancia-stratos)

There is one important point to know about Marvic refabrication parts ; they are strictly machined as they where on 70's including the very special steel insert that hold the bearing ( hard to find!).
They deliver with the upright if I remind the special big round screw that pusches onto this bearing ( so alot of tricky machining !!)

Watching at the titaium parts to my modest opinion one steel hubb would cost not below 750/800 euros and quite same for the splined shaft supporting the CV joint
Again this is due to low batches possible for sure and splines to achieve ( now machine shops are very few specialised on such machining!)

strat24v
23-05-2016, 14:48
For a Hawk owner and to have the geometry correct, it means heavily modified top mounts and the lower inner wishbone mounts moving in by 50mm each side which involves a fair amount of re -fabrication of the lower cradle.

LM mic
23-05-2016, 15:02
For a Hawk owner and to have the geometry correct, it means heavily modified top mounts and the lower inner wishbone mounts moving in by 50mm each side which involves a fair amount of re -fabrication of the lower cradle.

Yes !!!
And quite same issues with LB kits

This is why I doubt some one could be interested on those !!!
I think this is only interesting if some one wanted to replicate in every details the rear tranny ; this will need to think and ingineer before to do the rear tubes !!!!
So very very very rare person I guess:rolleyes::) !!!

Otherwise we know now that the parts are avaible and where ........

Dreaming more ...one day or another someone would redo ( what have been done before !!) "real deal" chassis !!!
But we are no more on the REPLICA world !!!!!

strat24v
23-05-2016, 15:38
I'm in the process of changing my Hawk chassis to pretty much original Stratos geometry but using a new billet upright. It's a fair amount of work and costing an unhealthy amount of money. As the geometry is, it's probably adding a fair bit to snap oversteer, sure a few have found this.

pim
30-05-2016, 19:04
Just found this add in Holland: http://www.marktplaats.nl/a/auto-onderdelen/ophanging-en-onderstel/m1054453813-hubs-housing-for-lancia-stratos.html?c=c40de5ad629ab42516ec13768067e2e0&previousPage=lr&pos=13

LM mic
30-05-2016, 20:13
Woowwwwww !!
never watched before such a batch of second hand parts !!!!