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manta356
07-11-2011, 17:16
Does anyone know the story behind this picture.?
Was it just abandoned by the team.

"Munari´s 1976 Stratos, found in the 90´s in a farm near Nairobi Kenya."

ProtoTipo
07-11-2011, 18:00
Now, given that there's a Fiat Uno in the shot, I'm sure this tub has no connection with the second ex works car that the Chequered Flag bought (the one that was found in Africa painted yellow).

ProtoTipo
07-11-2011, 18:25
"Munari´s 1976 Stratos, found in the 90´s in a farm near Nairobi Kenya."

It isn't Munari's 1976 Safari car, because it's in 1975 colours. Maiga co drove for Munari in 1976, but not in that car. Would they bother to write the names on practice car? In the Thomas Popper list (Trow book), Maiga only co drove for Munari in cars with the later (1976 - 1977) Alitalia colour scheme. 'Never in 1975.

It isn't Munari's 1975 Safari car either. Unless Maiga's name was already written on the doors and there wasn't time to put Lofty Drews name on? My best guess (at the moment) is that it could be this car.

Has anyone got a photo of Munari's 1975 Safari car, showing the names on the doors?
It's the car on the front cover of the Trow book.

Jeff
07-11-2011, 19:38
You'd think that, by now, the where abouts of all the Stratos made would be known. I suppose that in reality given that we can't even be sure where all the road going replicas are that it's no surprise there are well defined areas of doubt and uncertainty :)

It is a sad picture though. Trying to peer past the dog outside the car it does look like the whole front is missing.

strat6v
07-11-2011, 19:52
House roof looks more European and a Fiat Uno parked behind???

ProtoTipo
07-11-2011, 22:09
and a Fiat Uno parked behind???

You're right John, Fiat Uno?....that puts it at 1983 onwards.

ProtoTipo
07-11-2011, 22:25
The first Alitalia colour scheme was only used during 1975.
Maiga didn't co-drive for Munari during 1975. So was it a practice car for the 1976 Safari, or some other rally in 1976? All cars entered from the beginning of 1976 would have the later Alitalia colour scheme.

The make shift roof scoop is exactly the same as the CF2 had when they picked it up.

strat6v
07-11-2011, 22:30
Don't see any safari spare wheel mount points on the roof and it looks like the aeriel was in the middle of the roof. Safari cars were on a rear corner of the roof to clear the roof framework.

ProtoTipo
07-11-2011, 22:45
Don't see any safari spare wheel mount points on the roof and it looks like the aeriel was in the middle of the roof. Safari cars were on a rear corner of the roof to clear the roof framework.

1975 Safari cars didn't carry the spare on the roof John. It was over the boot, and the aerial was in the usual middle of roof position.
It's the name on the door that has me foxed??

I can only think that they left another one behind the following year from when the CF picked up theirs?

Monte76
08-11-2011, 00:19
I agree, it's a real puzzle, judging by these other photos multiple body parts were dumped in the same location - what a find.

Monte76
08-11-2011, 00:22
Like all the other GRP IV cars this one was taken off the production line and obviously started life as a red Stradale, judging by the colour of the inside door panel.

Guy Mayers
08-11-2011, 09:54
Looks like the remains of two cars or additional spares? There are two nose sections (or parts thereof) in Vince's last set of photos. It also looks like the pictures were taken in 1990? Anybody thought about asking Thomas Popper - I'm sure he'd know.
Guy

ProtoTipo
08-11-2011, 11:03
We had a thread on the old forum regarding these same photos. I think Tryphon (or someone) posted them?
I'd always (wrongly) assumed that this tub and the car (see below) that the Chequered Flag got hold of in 1976 were one and the same, but it's obvious to me now that they're not.

Regarding the Chequered Flag Stratos 2:
In Historic Race & Rally magazine, Graham Robson says that the second ex works car that the Chequered Flag bought was chassis 1637, reg. TOL80932
We know that this car is now fully restored and in the early Alitalia colours, but according to the history list by Thomas Popper in the back of the Trow book, TOL80932 was driven by Vic Preston to 11th overall on the 1975 Safari Rally.

Was it 1975 that the Vic Preston car ran in plain white?

ChrisCar6
08-11-2011, 16:02
I agree, it's a real puzzle, judging by these other photos multiple body parts were dumped in the same location - what a find.

Tub paint doesn't match Alitalia door - looks more Chardonnet blue.



well defined areas of doubt and uncertainty ???!! Rumsfeld Known Unknowns ?

ProtoTipo
08-11-2011, 21:46
They are of # chassis 837-403.


So that's chassis number 1837 and scocca 403 ?

ProtoTipo
08-11-2011, 21:49
The Safari entries for 1975 had white roofs, so it's not a Safari entered car.

tipo158
09-11-2011, 03:37
Dang, why can't I find something like this.

ProtoTipo
09-11-2011, 10:40
Unless it was a recce car or summat???

That's all I can think it could be John?

ProtoTipo
22-01-2012, 10:34
I'm glad you weighed in on that Guy:
Another discussion (http://www.alfabb.com/bb/forums/other-italian-cars/190150-lancia-stratos-ex-munari.html)