Stratos Successor - 037 Replica

[Guy Mayers]

Following on from his Delta S4 replica.....

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Lancia-037-Replica-Chassis-/271757622683?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item3f46043d9b

Oh how I need to win the lottery this weekend!

Guy

[NoCorseChris]

Oooh, that looks nice. Always loved the 037 - had a Monte and always thought the 037 was how that car should have been.

[Bernard]

yes Guy ........ that looks really good..........

Excuse my ignorance........ what exact Eng / Gbox would he use in that.........

[Guy Mayers]

Originals were the Lampredi twin cam (2.1 litre I think) with a 16v head and Volumex Supercharger. But bigger than the one you find on the Fiat/Lancias of the era. Engine was also upright and not canted over, inline and not transverse. I also think it used a ZF box.

Micks car appears to use the right engine, smaller supercharger but I'm not sure of the gearbox he's using. Audi?

Guy

[monoposto]

I always thought these things had the Fiat Abarth 131 engine in them?

EDIT: I should say, is the Lampredi the same as the fiat abarth unit?

[Guy Mayers]

I always thought these things had the Fiat Abarth 131 engine in them?

EDIT: I should say, is the Lampredi the same as the fiat abarth unit?

Basically the same animal but with lower compression and HUGE Rootes type supercharger nailed to the side. Different gearbox obviously. The car will be at Race Retro this weekend, can't wait to see it!

Guy

[monoposto]

Good stuff.

I always keep my eye out for a Lancia Scorpion(Monte Carlo for you guys), just in case I decide to build an 037 some day. That Fiat Abarth engine and the gearbox, seems like it would be a challenge to hunt down.

[Guy Mayers]

Car will be at Race Retro this weekend on the Club Lancia Sport stand.

Guy

[ProtoTipo]

Are you bidding Guy?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/lancia-037-recreation-/271956483899?hash=item3f51de9f3b

[ChrisC]

Car is advertised here http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C632910 I should imagine reserve has a long way to go.

Any body seen the car in the flesh? Some of the mould edges and detailing look like they need a little work.

[Guy Mayers]

Not unless I win the lottery on Saturday Chris!

[strat24v]

I've never heard of a poor accountant!.......

[ProtoTipo]

Any body seen the car in the flesh? Some of the mould edges and detailing look like they need a little work.

Were the originals ever that good Chris?

I have seen this one at Race Retro, pre 'totip' stickers.
I noticed the one cut tube on the removable transmission cradle. I'm guessing this is something to do with the Audi box being a different shape to the original ZF?
There's no removable rear bulkhead panel on this one, but that feature has been added to subsequent chassis'.

The photos I've seen on the replica chassis that Martin Kift made had this removable bulkhead panel, and some extra gussets on the rear frame.
I remember John H. said that the Kift chassis was built using an ex works Safari car for reference, so maybe there were some 'Safari' mods? 'Just a guess, nothing more.
Anyhow, 'must be closer to the original than any kit Stratos is?

[ProtoTipo]

Here's some of the fit and finish on an original:

[ChrisC]

Were the originals ever that good Chris?

I have got to admit to never seeing a real one up close and the pictures of the original make the replica look very authentic. I think I have spent to much time with Vince. I saw the Delta they had built at a show a couple of years ago and was very impressed with that.

What do you think is the right price for the car?

[ProtoTipo]

What do you think is the right price for the car?

That's something that Craig and I were mulling over recently.

The amount of work could very easily justify a £70k price tag.
I tend to look at what else you could buy (invest in) with that amount of money.
A couple of things that spring to mind are the genuine ex works Michelle Mouton Fiat 131 Abarth that Bonhams sold at last year's Revival:
https://www.bonhams.com/auctions/21907/lot/218/
or a 308 GTB:
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/ferrari/308/ferrari-308-gtb/4496690

Really, not much more than a really nicely finished Stratos kit replica, and only more because there are only one or two of these around to date.
So,... £50k ish?

If you had to have an 037, and this was the only way to get one, then you might push the boat out a bit?

[ChrisC]

I am tempted by this http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1993-Lancia-Delta-HF-Integrale-Evolution-Outstanding-Example-/271890866819?hash=item3f4df56283. As an investment probably safer than the 037.

[ProtoTipo]

I am tempted by this http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1993-Lancia-Delta-HF-Integrale-Evolution-Outstanding-Example-/271890866819?hash=item3f4df56283. As an investment probably safer than the 037.

I agree with your thinking Chris. I'd rather have something like that.

Genuine 037s are probably set to to go through the roof, if they're not already heading that way, but values of genuine cars often don't bring any bearing on the values of replicas.

[Guy Mayers]

The trouble with an Integrale is that they're too good not to use.

Guy

[ProtoTipo]

The trouble with an Integrale is that they're too good not to use.

Guy

This is the thing isn't it.

A car to use or a car to keep?
One of each, if you can afford it.

[ProtoTipo]

Are you bidding Guy?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/lancia-037-recreation-/271956483899?hash=item3f51de9f3b

Reserve now met at £35k +

[ProtoTipo]

Reserve now met at £35k +

Ended at £35k.

[hedge]

The trouble with an Integrale is that they're too good not to use Guy This is v true. I've one & it's a proper garage queen, something I thought I'd never do to any car I owned. I can't bring myself to even drive it in the rain, let alone track it. Especially since I've just had it detailed by Paul Dalton.

Cheers,
Hedge

[Darkspeed]

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LANCIA-037-RECREATION-STUNNING-BUILD-QUALITY/231610048212?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D32694%26meid%3D860c083850304fd9b1471078f5255c9b%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D6%26mehot%3Dpp%26sd%3D271890866819

[ProtoTipo]

Delta S4 replica up for sale:
https://www.facebook.com/RallyLegendReplicas/posts/692538104179312