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NoCorseChris
21-10-2015, 13:58
Nowt to do with me.....located central Scotland.

http://www.alfaowner.com/Forum/classifieds/showproduct.php?product=23577&cat=93

hedge
22-10-2015, 13:25
What happens when all the donor Alfa V6's run out? This'll happen eventually, 166's/ GTA's are getting on for 12 years or more now.

A bigger problem re X1/9 parts supply too, I guess.

Cheers,
Hedge

mel lewis
22-10-2015, 16:48
Alfa GTs and Brera's are coming down in price, possibly to justify the slightly higher expense would be having to use it on the road while waiting for the kit to arrive and being built up to a certain level. Good side is you will have time to check and tweek any drive train issues.

STR_Strat
22-10-2015, 17:04
What happens when all the donor Alfa V6's run out? This'll happen eventually, 166's/ GTA's are getting on for 12 years or more now.

Fit one of these:D

8898

hedge
22-10-2015, 17:50
Alfa GTs and Brera's are coming down in price, possibly to justify the slightly higher expense would be having to use it on the road while waiting for the kit to arrive and being built up to a certain level. Good side is you will have time to check and tweek any drive train issues. V6 Gt's are rare. The V6 in the Brera isn't particularly nice, nothing like as good as the ones in the 166/ GTAs.

But, yes, that Toyota lump "might" work instead!

Cheers,
Hedge

Guy Mayers
22-10-2015, 19:24
V6 Gt's are rare. The V6 in the Brera isn't particularly nice, nothing like as good as the ones in the 166/ GTAs.

But, yes, that Toyota lump "might" work instead!

Cheers,
Hedge

Plus one on that score, the GT, 147GTA, 156 and 166 were the last models to use the Busso V6, the 159 uses GM based motors, some of which have dodgy M32 gearboxes. Mine's the 5 cylinder turbo diesel version (not sure of it's heritage but I like it!) but the V6 seems to be less tuneable than the Busso engine and nowhere near as aurally pleasant!

Guy

mel lewis
22-10-2015, 21:13
Although I like the idea of the Toyota I think after 300bhp the wheel base of the Stratos will make it not so pleasant to drive on a daily basis and become a "point and squirt" machine (Neil will be the one to ask though).
If I were to fit a non Italian V6, I would head for a mid to well tuned Duratec 4 pot to lessen the rear end weight, to reduce the pendulum effect when chucking it about (having fun)....

hedge
23-10-2015, 08:54
Plus one on that score, the GT, 147GTA, 156 and 166 were the last models to use the Busso V6, the 159 uses GM based motors, some of which have dodgy M32 gearboxes. Mine's the 5 cylinder turbo diesel version (not sure of it's heritage but I like it!) but the V6 seems to be less tuneable than the Busso engine and nowhere near as aurally pleasant!Guy Couldn't agree more.

Until y'day I was running a 159 Ti SW. I chopped it in simply because of the engine. Mine was a petrol (1.75 Tbi) that chucked out 200bhp so it went well - not that you'd know it. You might as well have had a washing machine under the bonnet. Plus it had the dreaded M32 gearbox which, tbh, was another reason I chopped it in. It was gonna let go; more a matter of when than if.

I replaced it with another Alfa Sportwagon: a 156 GTA. Good lord it's a brilliant car. If you need a load carrier that's not a 3 series/ A4 etc, buy one. Less than 100 156 SWs ever made, a stunning blue one up for sale on PH right now (with only 30k). I love mine to bits. The engine, alone, is worth it. Especially with a Wizard exhaust...

Cheers,
Hedge

NoCorseChris
23-10-2015, 10:27
The Busso both looks and sounds great, but true enough, they are running out. Any of the Japanese V6 engines would be a good option, plenty of bigger V6 FWD packages from the US as well, and probably cheap. Personally, I still think a 4 or 5 pot turbo would be interesting. 5 pot might not sound quite as good as the Busso, but they can sound pretty good and can certainly produce the power.

Finding a 'pretty' engine might be more challenging though. Yet to see much as attractive as a nicely dressed Busso V6 in anything other than 'supercars'. Big chunk of plastic on top to hide the mess doesn't count :)

hedge
23-10-2015, 11:56
Surely the number of X1/9 parts must be seriously drying up big time by now, too?

Cheers,
Hedge

Guy Mayers
23-10-2015, 13:32
Couldn't agree more.

Until y'day I was running a 159 Ti SW. I chopped it in simply because of the engine. Mine was a petrol (1.75 Tbi) that chucked out 200bhp so it went well - not that you'd know it. You might as well have had a washing machine under the bonnet. Plus it had the dreaded M32 gearbox which, tbh, was another reason I chopped it in. It was gonna let go; more a matter of when than if.

I replaced it with another Alfa Sportwagon: a 156 GTA. Good lord it's a brilliant car. If you need a load carrier that's not a 3 series/ A4 etc, buy one. Less than 100 156 SWs ever made, a stunning blue one up for sale on PH right now (with only 30k). I love mine to bits. The engine, alone, is worth it. Especially with a Wizard exhaust...

Cheers,
Hedge

So you're "hedge" on Alfaowner too! I was looking for a black/tan leather Ti SW 1.75 turbo last Christmas until I started reading about the M32 gearbox (same as in the 1.9 Punto I had at the time which was okay as it's a lighter car). In the end I decided I wanted a 159 SW Ti 2.4 Q4 and ended up getting one (of four allegedly) from Veloces. Yes it was expensive but it's a great car with most options ticked, Bose, Xenons, Sunroof and Sat Nav. Not been a cheap years motoring sorting out niggles (suspension bushes shot, tyres getting low and a sunroof leak/flooded floorpan) but I love it and it's a keeper!

Guy

ProtoTipo
23-10-2015, 15:07
Anyone who's running a Busso, really ought to grab one more engine and box.
At the price of the 166 manual that Chris S. has posted here, you'd be daft not to?

hedge
23-10-2015, 22:34
Anyone who's running a Busso, really ought to grab one more engine and box. At the price of the 166 manual that Chris S. has posted here, you'd be daft not to?If I had somewhere to store that car I would. Good point, though.

cheers,
hedge

ProtoTipo
14-12-2016, 17:54
Maybe a bit high mileage?:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Alfa-Romeo-166-3-0-Super-V6-/291969030535?hash=item43fab5d987:g:zFAAAOSwImRYTUnE

Strat Fan
14-12-2016, 17:57
Maybe a bit high mileage?:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Alfa-Romeo-166-3-0-Super-V6-/291969030535?hash=item43fab5d987:g:zFAAAOSwImRYTUnE

Its making good money given the miles....

ProtoTipo
21-01-2017, 08:48
Another one:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/alfa-romeo-/262808789699?hash=item3d309fe2c3:g:EOkAAOSw2xRYe2uo

ProtoTipo
24-01-2017, 13:40
Another one:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/alfa-romeo-/262808789699?hash=item3d309fe2c3:g:EOkAAOSw2xRYe2uo

£746.00

Stratos Fear
24-01-2017, 15:00
Yes - I was following this one. My bid was about 100 quid too low . It had some issues with the paperwork (V5 held by DVLC pending correct importation back into UK - so was potentially risky ) but otherwise looked to be in good nick and had low mileage.