Sun visor

[StruanR]

What does the Stratos sun visor come from?
Do the works cars use them?
What is the best replica version?
Struan

[Guy Mayers]

Made specially I'm afraid. They are quite small as the gap between the A pillars and the mirror are small. No vanity mirrors in them, pretty much a rectangular piece of padded vinyl with Fiat 124 Spider mounting clips and hardware. Very basic stuff.

If there's enough demand I'm sure we could tool up to remanufacture and David H can give us the dimensions?

Guy

[ProtoTipo]

My first Hawk had them.
They're not very practical, and I'm not that tall.

[Guy Mayers]

Part of the problem might be where they're nailed to? If it's the roll cage that runs between the A pillars on the screen then the visor is quite close to the driver's face? They'll need to be on the perimeter of the screen itself I think. So far I've just managed with a baseball cap.....

Guy

[StruanR]

Part of the problem might be where they're nailed to? If it's the roll cage that runs between the A pillars on the screen then the visor is quite close to the driver's face? They'll need to be on the perimeter of the screen itself I think. So far I've just managed with a baseball cap.....

Guy

Yes, that's what I've used, tend to forget it though....
If visors were available I'd try them.
Driving into the low sun can be a nightmare.
Struan

[Lancialulu]

Sounds like a job for poloroid shades? Not qualified to judge as yet to drive my car but they certainly help when driving other cars with raked windscreens.....

[ProtoTipo]

Part of the problem might be where they're nailed to?Guy

In the case of the dark blue Hawk, you're right Guy.
The visors were mounted to a panel flush with the bottom of the roll cage tube. So lower than the roof itself. The distance would make a significant difference?
See photo of actual car:

[Ken Tomblin]

I find that an external sun strip works well and most group 4 cars had them !!

Regards Ken

[Ken Tomblin]

I always thought that Fiat X/19 visors would work well

[Guy Mayers]

They're X19 in Chris's photograph, the originals were just rectangular and smaller.

Guy

[ProtoTipo]

They're X19 in Chris's photograph, the originals were just rectangular and smaller.Guy

Maybe that was adding to the problem then? The X1/9 visors were a tad too big, as well as being mounted too low?
I'm with Ken, make a stick on one do.

[ProtoTipo]

They're X19 in Chris's photograph, the originals were just rectangular and smaller.Guy

Here's Tom Ransom's photo of chassis 1607, that shows Guy's description:
http://www.stratosec.com/Forum/album.php?albumid=67&attachmentid=4260

I can see how they would work better than the X1/9 visors in my earlier photo.

[ChrisC]

I always thought MGTF visors might be an option.

9016

[Fingers]

I've always wondered if the visors from an original old Fiat 500 might be close to the right size?

http://mrfiat.com/italian/fiat/fiat-500/interior/fiat-500-600-black-sun-visors-set.html

[StruanR]

I've always wondered if the visors from an original old Fiat 500 might be close to the right size?

http://mrfiat.com/italian/fiat/fiat-500/interior/fiat-500-600-black-sun-visors-set.html

Could be a good match for size, but not the same shape as original.
I have a problem with glasses/sunglasses, always lose the damn things. Same with hats.
Sunstrip reduces visibility, when you don't need it, Screen can be a bit of a letterbox to look through on occasion...
Hence the visor option, 37 & 38 .... I'll keep looking, dimensions anyone?
Struan

[davehanman]

What you need are Fiat 124 spider sun-visors which are exactly the right depth, but too wide. You need to carefully remove the vinyl, and the padding, modify (shorten & straighten) the 3mm wire frame inside which is a bending and welding job. The 124 mounting hinges are correct for Stratos.

There's then a bit of jiggery-pokery to do, which involves (a jig), and an oven, et Voila, you'll have a pair of Stratos sun-visors.

You can see all of the parts needed, here: http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.Xfiat+124+sunvisors.TRS0&_nkw=fiat+124+sunvisors&_sacat=0

David

[Lancialulu]

Ok so please what is the width and depth of the correctly minimised 850 spider sunvisor?? Am thinking of modifying some Fulvia coupe ones....

[maxlouis]

Am sure that's right. Later Fiat Dino Spider might also be the same as they're shorter, courser grain leatherette with the same black plastic mountings (and the seams split in exactly the same place) - but I think basically 124 and still available at reasonable money. I don't remember ever seeing the Stratos having the vanity mirror on passenger side; did it?


What you need are Fiat 124 spider sun-visors which are exactly the right depth, but too wide. You need to carefully remove the vinyl, and the padding, modify (shorten & straighten) the 3mm wire frame inside which is a bending and welding job. The 124 mounting hinges are correct for Stratos.

There's then a bit of jiggery-pokery to do, which involves (a jig), and an oven, et Voila, you'll have a pair of Stratos sun-visors.

You can see all of the parts needed, here: http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.Xfiat+124+sunvisors.TRS0&_nkw=fiat+124+sunvisors&_sacat=0

David

[Guy Mayers]

The 124 Spider has two types of mounting pin if I remember correctly - the inner ones are the ones we need 4 off but the outer ones have the visor pivot pin integrated into the clip for the hood clamp.

Wrong type:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Fiat-124-Spider-Convertible-Top-Latch-Receptacle-Sun-Visor-Mount-Right-Side-7mm-/181942520226?hash=item2a5c9e89a2:g:bqEAAMXQTT9RotC4

Right Ones
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2-x-Halter-fur-Sonnenblende-Fiat-124-Spider-Alfa-Spider-2-x-sun-visor-bracket-/231722204276?hash=item35f3b83c74:g:U1oAAOSwBLlU4fFi

Guy

[StruanR]

All useful stuff, has anyone actual dimensions of original?
Struan

[Guy Mayers]

All useful stuff, has anyone actual dimensions of original?
Struan

At the moment no, David can get that information but if he doesn't have it written down you'll have to wait until April Struan......... Or find another source!

Guy

[ProtoTipo]

Sun visor photo:
http://nise.altervista.org/b2-003/b1-013-13.jpg