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ProtoTipo
24-05-2017, 12:51
Plain white with VX engine.
Here:
http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C873434

Lancialulu
24-05-2017, 14:30
Why no photos? Chris do you know the car??

ProtoTipo
24-05-2017, 15:23
Why no photos? Chris do you know the car??

This is my best guess Tim. Taken by me at Brooklands in 1999. I don't know the owner.
'Just a guess though. It might not be this car.

Strat Fan
24-05-2017, 15:28
I did some sub contract work on a white Hawk fitted with a Volumex maybe 10 years ago while it was in at a friends workshop.
Trying to remember what it was in for. It came from "South of Reading" so Camberley could fit the description.

Karel
28-05-2017, 10:21
I think the owners name is Gorden. A man by this name responded to my "Stratos wanted" add. He couldn't send pictures. He promised to get back with some more info but I guess it has been sold in the meantime.

Still looking b.t.w.

Guy Mayers
28-05-2017, 10:42
Listin g now says sold? Anyone on here?

ProtoTipo
01-07-2017, 08:54
This is my best guess Tim. Taken by me at Brooklands in 1999. I don't know the owner.
'Just a guess though. It might not be this car.

'Just to update this. I guessed wrong, it was actually Brent's old car.
As it turns out, a much more recently built Hawk than the one in my photo.
Thanks to Struan for the info.

I don't know where the white round arch Hawk with the green rear louvres and roof wing is now.
I've not seen it since that show in 1999.

ah_sprite
02-07-2017, 01:09
Now for sale at £49,995 at Totalheadturners - spotted at Goodwood this weekend HERE. (https://preprod.instagram.com/p/BWAxVVxBvv6/?tagged=lanciastratos) Original asking price was £28k. Wish my cars had the same markup!

ProtoTipo
02-07-2017, 10:33
Now for sale at £49,995 at Totalheadturners - spotted at Goodwood this weekend HERE. (https://preprod.instagram.com/p/BWAxVVxBvv6/?tagged=lanciastratos) Original asking price was £28k. Wish my cars had the same markup!

£50K?
This is a Transformer kit with Rob's old Volumex, Guy's old split rims, and what looks like a partial vinyl wrap. Isn't it?

ah_sprite
02-07-2017, 11:34
Yep, that's right. I bought my new Hawk seats a month or so back, from Gordon, the previous owner - a very nice man, indeed. Didn't see the car.

I'm sure he won't mind me sharing with you that Mark from Total Headturners didn't actually let on at any point that he was a dealer - it was only through the fact that Gordon did some background research and Googled Mark's telephone number that he found out!

Will be interesting to see how long it's for sale at that price... but then again, it would have only taken one wealthy Goodwood attendee to see it and want it!

ProtoTipo
02-07-2017, 11:48
Will be interesting to see how long it's for sale at that price... but then again, it would have only taken one wealthy Goodwood attendee to see it and want it!

There's only ever one for sale at any time, so I suppose it is 'who dares wins'.
'Must be great buying and selling classic cars when you've got a bit float of cash?

ah_sprite
05-07-2017, 11:53
Now listed on C&C HERE (http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C888852).

ProtoTipo
05-07-2017, 12:38
Now listed on C&C HERE (http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C888852).

How long before it's gone Richard?

ProtoTipo
05-07-2017, 13:21
The Martini colour scheme on the Hawk seems to be a replica of the ex Gary Lomas Litton Corse.
The one that competed on the Spa rally. There have been numerous scale models of this car with 4 stud wheels.
Here's a photo of the Litton on the rally:
https://www.ewrc.cz/images/2011/ostatni/boucles/tl_a_208_historik_6.jpg
One of the models:
http://static.carmodel.com/photos/81327.jpg?1
There's a slot car too.

Strat Fan
05-07-2017, 17:31
The Martini colour scheme on the Hawk seems to be a replica of the ex Gary Lomas Litton Corse.
The one that competed on the Spa rally. There have been numerous scale models of this car with 4 stud wheels.
There's a slot car too.

And/or an LB up North with 5 stud wheels which was inspired by the Gary Lomas car
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john
05-07-2017, 19:53
All done in the gel cost Craig?!

Strat Fan
05-07-2017, 20:42
All done in the gel cost Craig?!
Not a chance!!

ProtoTipo
06-07-2017, 08:16
And/or an LB up North with 5 stud wheels which was inspired by the Gary Lomas car

'Should have 4 stud wheels to be authentic ;)

2 replicas of a replica, rather than the usual replica of an original.

There's plenty of scope for nicely executed colour schemes that look like they could have existed, but didn't.

The trouble with most of the European Championship Stratos of the period is that their colour schemes are nearly all half baked.
Ken Tomblin's Rothmans Pregliasco car, for example, is in the minority.

STR_Strat
06-07-2017, 08:25
Not a chance!!


I thought you liked a challenge:D

LM mic
06-07-2017, 08:51
I thought you liked a challenge:D

Can tell you that Craig do like challenges !!!!! He is just achieving one ..... very successfuly I can "personnaly" tell you !!!! :rolleyes:

ProtoTipo
13-07-2017, 09:24
Now listed on C&C HERE (http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C888852).

No longer listed.

Stratie.fr
13-07-2017, 10:04
Another one for sale...in France ...One Martini liviered... maybe the car is know here and not sure it's a hawk!

https://www.leboncoin.fr/voitures/1159835869.htm?ca=12_s

Lancialulu
13-07-2017, 10:26
Says Gp4 by is it not a stradale body??

Strat Fan
13-07-2017, 10:26
Corse S built by Gary Lomas in the UK and then sold on into Belgium.

turbonutter
13-07-2017, 10:28
And the CAD Picture is lifted from the Lister Bell Website!

Stratie.fr
13-07-2017, 10:37
Corse S built by Gary Lomas in the UK and then sold on into Belgium.

You right Craig...I recognize it as Lionel promoted me it as a car from Napiersport racing in Belgium when I was first Time in touch with them for refurbishing my car!!

Stratie.fr
13-07-2017, 10:44
Says Gp4 by is it not a stradale body??

Absolutely Tim..a bit confusion in that announcement!!

ah_sprite
13-07-2017, 11:00
Looks to me like it's the person that's just bought the Total Headturners car. The interior pic is one of the pictures taken by Total Headturners.

Strat Fan
13-07-2017, 11:21
All very questionable. If it is the Total head turners car then why use a picture of a Corse, a Hawk and an LB in the listing? There were plenty of pictures from THT available.

ProtoTipo
13-07-2017, 11:58
The Gary Lomas Corse, before it was 'Martini'd':
http://img04.deviantart.net/8549/i/2008/110/1/b/_____rally_6_by_theederv.jpg
http://img02.deviantart.net/a980/i/2008/110/7/a/_____rally_4_by_theederv.jpg

This is the same car in the first picture of the 'Leboncoin' advert link that Frederic has posted.

ah_sprite
13-07-2017, 12:01
All very questionable. If it is the Total head turners car then why use a picture of a Corse, a Hawk and an LB in the listing? There were plenty of pictures from THT available.

Agreed - anyone interested in the car needs to tread very carefully! However, it's unusual for a 'bogus' ad to have a comparatively high price.

Stratie.fr
13-07-2017, 12:28
Right Richie!
it's strange for a bogus listed with a true cellphone Number and announced with french registration...To investigate more!!

LM mic
13-07-2017, 12:31
Another one for sale...in France ...One Martini liviered... maybe the car is know here and not sure it's a hawk!

https://www.leboncoin.fr/voitures/1159835869.htm?ca=12_s

Bonjour Fred
Did you already call ?????

there are others strange ads in le bon coin where you find for sale
All genuine Stratos parts !!!!
One dino engine to rebuilt !!!
main case and gears for genuine dino gear box !!!!!

Will be interesting to compare tel nb of all those ads !!!!:o

Request in France for Stratos start to increase but evidently registration stuff is an big issue so this ad can be a really serious "fake " !!!:rolleyes:

Stratie.fr
13-07-2017, 12:54
Bonjour Fred
Did you already call ?????

there are others strange ads in le bon coin where you find for sale
All genuine Stratos parts !!!!
One dino engine to rebuilt !!!
main case and gears for genuine dino gear box !!!!!

Will be interesting to compare tel nb of all those ads !!!!:o

Request in France for Stratos start to increase but evidently registration stuff is an big issue so this ad can be a really serious "fake " !!!:rolleyes:

Bonjour Michel

Indeed there is a lot of curious Stratos stuff listed in le bon coin...real one or fake, I don't know!

Dino engine and gear box seems to be from an italian guy called Aldo!!

That could be interesting to call for further informations!

LM mic
13-07-2017, 14:46
Bonjour Michel

Indeed there is a lot of curious Stratos stuff listed in le bon coin...real one or fake, I don't know!

Dino engine and gear box seems to be from an italian guy called Aldo!!

That could be interesting to call for further informations!

Yes for sure !!!
But at the moment am more involved in setting up my shed for the arrival next week of the superb LWB !!!:p
and preparing the campervan to go back to england Monday next!!:cool:

Griff
13-07-2017, 23:57
Martini car was still in THT showroom last Sunday, I spoke to Mark and it wasn't sold, so I would say that the 'other' Martini car was very, very suspect
You know what they say........... if it looks like, smells like, and tastes like dog poo, it probably is

LM mic
14-07-2017, 08:58
add canceled this morning !!!

Stratie.fr
14-07-2017, 12:14
add canceled this morning !!!


CQFD (Q.E.D) !!!

ProtoTipo
14-07-2017, 17:42
THT are no longer advertising the ex Brent, ex Gordon Martini Hawk anywhere, so it looks like it's sold?

Stratos Fear
15-07-2017, 12:50
Well if they got the 50 grand asking price they did well. I had a look at it at the Goodwood FOS and to be honest wasn't that impressed - it was showing its age and the spec was rather underwhelming.