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tomsredstratos
12-07-2018, 22:11
Just seen this on the net.
Stratos caught fire while refueling two weeks ago. Steve Perez recovering in hospital.
Look on Instagram for more pics. Search lancia_stratos
Guy Mayers
12-07-2018, 22:19
Knew that they'd suffered a fire but didn't know Steve Perez was injured. Glad to hear he's on the road to recovery, hope it's a full one!
tomsredstratos
12-07-2018, 22:56
Recovering watching the football
Strat Fan
13-07-2018, 08:44
The basic story is that during refuelling there was a splash or a spillage of fuel that ignited on the hot exhaust. The Co driver managed escape where Steve bore the brunt of the ensuing fireball.
The car damage is largely cosmetic and Steve was the main concern.
As we can see from his post on FB the other night and the Lancia_Stratos post on Instagram he is now on the road to recovery which is excellent news for all concerned.
Stratie.fr
13-07-2018, 09:37
We all know Steve Perez and appreciate him as well
I had the pleasure to meet him in last Costa Brava rally...
All thoughts and best wishes for his recovery
Please any fellows and friends take care and be safe especially during rally...Old and classic cars are great but potentially more dangerous than more recent ones!
Stratie.fr
13-07-2018, 09:43
The basic story is that during refuelling there was a splash or a spillage of fuel that ignited on the hot exhaust. The Co driver managed escape where Steve bore the brunt of the ensuing fireball.
The car damage is largely cosmetic and Steve was the main concern.
As we can see from his post on FB the other night and the Lancia_Stratos post on Instagram he is now on the road to recovery which is excellent news for all concerned.
Fire it’s my main concern each time I refuel the car during race with hot engine and exhaust ...also I do it with rear hood closed to avoid splash or spillage on it!
strat24v
13-07-2018, 11:35
Remember the original has a hot exhaust running near the right hand tank.
Stratie.fr
13-07-2018, 11:51
Remember the original has a hot exhaust running near the right hand tank.
Right! Avoid right hand tank with hood opened!!
ProtoTipo
20-09-2023, 10:57
The Stratos returns (Malton Rally in Nov.):
ProtoTipo
22-11-2023, 08:39
BBC Look North did a feature on Seb/Steve Perez and the Stratos yesterday.
It's on the SEC Facebook page now.
The 5 day Roger Albert Clark starts tomorrow (Thursday 23rd November) and finishes on Monday 27th November. Scrutineering today (Wednesday).
RAC 2023 Route (http://racrmc.org/roger-albert-clark-rally/route)
RAC 2023 entry list (https://www.rallies.info/webentry/2023/rac/entries.php?type=s)
Guy Mayers
22-11-2023, 10:34
Looks like spectators are going to see a lot of Ford Escorts....
ProtoTipo
22-11-2023, 10:58
Looks like spectators are going to see a lot of Ford Escorts....
Looking at our 20p 1973 RAC programme, they were 1st 2nd and 3rd.
The thing is, RWD Escorts have never become obsolete, and competition parts supply has been constant since they were first used. A Porsche 911 won the last Roger Albert Clark rally though.
ProtoTipo
22-11-2023, 11:17
16 scheduled live coverage videos already set up for this rally on youtube.
Can we see the rest of that entry list Chris?
ProtoTipo
22-11-2023, 12:19
Can we see the rest of that entry list Chris?
The 1973 one John?
There were 241 entries. Over 4 hours for the rally to pass through with zero holdups, so probably a lot longer.
8 pages of entries in the programme.
No. 68 was driver Jill Robinson, co-driver Jimmy Savile.
Anyone you're looking for in particular?
Tim Tyrer and Ralph Whitby.
Just trying to remember if that was the year they entered in a Mazda RX3 or if they were still in the Mk1 Twincam.
ProtoTipo
22-11-2023, 15:57
Tim Tyrer and Ralph Whitby.
Just trying to remember if that was the year they entered in a Mazda RX3 or if they were still in the Mk1 Twincam.
In the Mazda John, No. 187
Do you remember when you had to phone to find out the results? On the other page:
Thanks Chris.
I seem to remember this was the first ever entry of a rotary engined car on the RAC.
I used to work for Tim at weekends and holidays at his narrowboat hire business while I was still at school!
There was always loads of car related stuff going on at Bartington Wharf, including restoration of a Connaught F1 car. Tim was responsible for my interest in both cars and canal boats and has therefore cost me a piggin' fortune throughout my life!!
ProtoTipo
22-11-2023, 16:26
Live forum with Seb Perez now (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whS7x_4dUAQ)
Looks like great line up of entrants (172) Me and Neil B are Planning a Str trip out day Friday going SS 9 And SS 12, if anyone else is there
ProtoTipo
23-11-2023, 08:05
Roger Albert ceremonial start, Stratos at 1:50 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gibgzoLTYOo)
Live stages today (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFi6ORO32pE)
ProtoTipo
23-11-2023, 15:48
Stage 5 live (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKZxIkdlXk4)
The Stratos is lying 4th overall.
Stratos at 1:15, now that they've got the HT lead sorted (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HuWUkLKE_wY)
and...
William Woollard, no really! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ay2zuFLEQJY)
SS9 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_20st831ACU)
Brilliant day Friday 322 mile round trip Seb was going well in stage 9
it was well worth it just to hear the raw sound of that stratos coming through the forest
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ProtoTipo
25-11-2023, 21:06
Brilliant day Friday 322 mile round trip Seb was going well in stage 9
it was well worth it just to hear the raw sound of that stratos coming through the forest
You were spotted Dave, mentioned on this day 3 Roger Albert Rally report. He thinks one of them was a real one!
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBNSdo1ZHps)
Brilliant day Friday 322 mile round trip Seb was going well in stage 9
it was well worth it just to hear the raw sound of that stratos coming through the forest
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Brilliant day with Dave & Phil. I got so excited at this point I forgot to film and ended with 30secs of my knee. What Dave hasn?t told you is the car park was full and closed, we got let in at Myherin and guided towards stage start as Marshalls thought we were competitors.
hollytree
26-11-2023, 16:43
Neil. Did you put lots of stickers on your car?
Neil. Did you put lots of stickers on your car?
I added a couple but think it was Dave?s that fooled the Marshalls :cool:
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Guy Mayers
26-11-2023, 19:13
Brilliant day with Dave & Phil. I got so excited at this point I forgot to film and ended with 30secs of my knee. What Dave hasn?t told you is the car park was full and closed, we got let in at Myherin and guided towards stage start as Marshalls thought we were competitors.
Happened to us too. The marshalls tried to guide us to the stage start at Rally Legends in San Marino in JP Lihou's Repsol Integrale, three navigators sir? Really!
ProtoTipo
26-11-2023, 21:39
The Stratos is now 2nd overall after 4 days.
One day to go.
Guy Mayers
26-11-2023, 22:10
Just seen Oli Solberg has suffered a broken driveshaft and is out….
Guy
ProtoTipo
27-11-2023, 08:06
Just seen Oli Solberg has suffered a broken driveshaft and is out….
Guy
He's restarting Guy. 4th O/A with one super rally time, and within shooting distance of 2nd.
hollytree
27-11-2023, 10:06
SS29 says Solberg Escort is 'off road'
Seb still 2nd
Guy Mayers
27-11-2023, 10:47
Seb running with gearbox/diff noises, starter problem too. Solberg out. McCourt 19s behind Perez after SS29.
ProtoTipo
27-11-2023, 11:44
It's all happening. Ben Friend and Barry McKenna out now.
'Last stage today is 38miles!! Driven axle tyres will wear out.
hollytree
27-11-2023, 12:38
It's all happening. Ben Friend and Barry McKenna out now.
'Last stage today is 38miles!! Driven axle tyres will wear out.
Phil
What does 'Driven axle tyres will wear out' mean and what is the significance to the final stage
Thanks
Steve
Guy Mayers
27-11-2023, 12:43
Phil
What does 'Driven axle tyres will wear out' mean and what is the significance to the final stage
Thanks
Steve
The significance of the final stage is that it's the longest one Steve, 38 miles of loose surface where tyres are scrabbling for grip and having chunks ripped off them by sharp gravel. The Stratos has an advantage over the Escorts here as there is more weight over the driven wheels creating better bite and, hopefully, less wear. But a puncture for any of the leaders is possible and could change the whole leaderboard.
Guy
ProtoTipo
27-11-2023, 14:40
The Stratos has stopped!
Guy Mayers
27-11-2023, 14:43
8 miles from the end... Such a great effort, come back the year after next...
Stratie.fr
27-11-2023, 15:44
8 miles from the end... Such a great effort, come back the year after next...
Oh no what a bad luck so close of the end with a fantastic result:(
Such an amazing drive and performance !
I remember the night stages in Costa brava mountains behind Steve in 2018 few months before his accident and was stunned by the sound of the engine but now since recent rebuild the Stratos is simply a blast !! :cool:
ProtoTipo
27-11-2023, 15:45
8 miles from the end... Such a great effort, come back the year after next...
It's too cruel. He deserved a podium.
I think he won for the best sounding car, bonus prize for best looking by splitting up all those Escorts.
Great effort none the less.
Don't suppose anybody took any pictures we could have for the Calendar? Please.
Sach.
What cruel cruel luck to have to retire 8 miles from the end of a grueling 4 day event. The Perez family and whole team must be gutted to have come so close to a record 2nd place after the full rebuild in 2018. Our hearts go out to them.
westonTB
27-11-2023, 19:17
Bloody good effort! I am guessing robust transmission parts are not quite as easy to obtain/use as ford bits...
Cannot be easy choosing to run a Stratos so that morally makes it a win in my mind :)
hollytree
27-11-2023, 19:40
I think the Escorts are 'newer' and had so much development on them over their life.
hollytree
27-11-2023, 20:05
Should we do some sponsorship for the car next time?
It might only be small but it might be meaningful
A nice thought however I suspect Mr Perez isn't short of a Bob or two given he was the main sponsor of the whole event. When you look at the plethora of Escort race and rally parts companies I think your comment about their development is much nearer the mark.
Guy Mayers
27-11-2023, 21:20
Hopefully this event's profile will have been raised significantly enough on the "Continent" to encourage a few more EU competitors to consider an entry for the next event? It would be nice to see a little more variety in the entry next time. Whilst I appreciate an Escort Mk1 or Mk2 the overload on this rally was almost too much. It would be nice to see a few Fiat 131's, Fiat 124 Abarth, Opel Asconas, Mantas, Minis etc etc. Maybe even a couple of more Stratos could be scared out of the woodwork?
Variety is the spice of life they say. After this years event I'm probably going to revisit Rally Legend in San Marino, Italy later next year. The attraction of that event is the variety of machinery for me!
Guy
Is Seb Steve's twin brother??
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBeG8gvwQvY
ProtoTipo
28-11-2023, 08:13
Is Seb Steve's twin brother??
His son Leigh. 'Probably more a racing driver than a rally driver.
One HT lead wasn't working in that video.
Stratie.fr
28-11-2023, 08:40
Hopefully this event's profile will have been raised significantly enough on the "Continent" to encourage a few more EU competitors to consider an entry for the next event? It would be nice to see a little more variety in the entry next time. Whilst I appreciate an Escort Mk1 or Mk2 the overload on this rally was almost too much. It would be nice to see a few Fiat 131's, Fiat 124 Abarth, Opel Asconas, Mantas, Minis etc etc. Maybe even a couple of more Stratos could be scared out of the woodwork?
Variety is the spice of life they say. After this years event I'm probably going to revisit Rally Legend in San Marino, Italy later next year. The attraction of that event is the variety of machinery for me!
Guy
You right Guy! Only one french driver this year with my friend Maxime Vilmot on Ford Escort retired early with a engine issue!
Hopefully there will be a few more EU drivers with differents cars than the Escort armada in 2025!;)
ProtoTipo
28-11-2023, 08:59
The last (day 5) RAC rally report here. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mO4tQOBB1gE) 'Terrible Alfa Romeo sound faux pas, ouch!
It isn't all Escorts. That Porsche on the opening credits won the last Roger Albert Clark rally.
Ah! That explains it. I don't really follow this so didn't know his son was involved too.
westonTB
28-11-2023, 20:50
The last (day 5) RAC rally report here. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mO4tQOBB1gE) 'Terrible Alfa Romeo sound faux pas, ouch!
It isn't all Escorts. That Porsche on the opening credits won the last Roger Albert Clark rally.
That made me laugh too Chris, I had to rewind it & check my ears, De Virgilio, Busso, Jano, I am sure they may appreciate the blurred lines!!!
ProtoTipo
29-11-2023, 07:42
That made me laugh too Chris, I had to rewind it & check my ears, De Virgilio, Busso, Jano, I am sure they may appreciate the blurred lines!!!
I can't fault the media team on that Rally. It's been very good. There have been people watching that live stage filming worldwide.
I know it's a professional thing, but it must be hard work?
ProtoTipo
29-11-2023, 12:17
Oliver Solberg's mother's dad...
(photo - Dave Wakeley Massers Camera Shop, Malton Nth. Yorks.)
This is a good view as well (1) STRATOS - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xur3fyQlUEc)
and this one (2) Lancia Stratos Screams at the Roger Albert Clark Rally - Pure Sound [HD] - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnQTU82y9lk)
Guy Mayers
29-11-2023, 14:35
Oliver Solberg's mother's dad...
(photo - Dave Wakeley Massers Camera Shop, Malton Nth. Yorks.)
So his maternal grandad had no influence of what Oli drove.. Get him in a Stratos next time!
Just for the record The engine in the Stratos is as follows Steve's statement 22221
To put the record straight British Rally Media were incorrect stating it was an Alfa v6 .
Its a Lancia /24v engine based on the Ferrari Dino The photo on the right is a 12v both are homoligated.
Replicas generally use a V6 Alfa great engine and about ?100k cheaper!
We have to use the big silencers in UK to get the noise down, in rest of the world they go in the bin!
Darkspeed
30-11-2023, 21:28
Is that the spark plug for the flamer kit ;)
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And for the person about to type - Its probably in there to blank the boss for a lambda for tuning........... don't
ProtoTipo
01-12-2023, 07:56
I did think, that's a strange place to keep a spare spark plug.
and some nice in car (2) Seb Perez/Gary McElhinney Lancia Stratos Roger Albert Clark Rally Crychan 2023 - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdXgZFCggrU)
ProtoTipo
03-12-2023, 08:24
and some nice in car (2) Seb Perez/Gary McElhinney Lancia Stratos Roger Albert Clark Rally Crychan 2023 - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdXgZFCggrU)
Very good co-driver.
Thanks Griff.
this as well (5) RAC Rally 2023 - Lancia Stratos - Insane Noise - Maximum Attack - ( Full Sound - HD ) - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyOlqVqbWd0)
I have just found this article on the development of the engine for the Perez stratos. After numerous nights of digging, due to having so much time on my hands now, what
with not doing the Calendar.:D
https://porschecarshistory.com/wp-content/old/lib/magazines/HRT/Historic%20Racing%20Technology%20-%20Winter%202021.pdf
If there is any issue with posting this, let me know and I'll take it down.
sach.
Guy Mayers
02-01-2024, 09:29
Thanks Sach - fascinating issue! I'm hope that the limited circulation within the club won't be an issue, if copyright is a problem it should be taken down but I'd hope that the publishers would see the reproduction of one copy might generate additional subscriptions for them. That issue contained fascinating articles on "continuation" Blower Bentleys and AC Cobras too. I've highlighted it to Gerry for that and the Dino motor article although I suspect that a 24v version will be beyond his pockets for his tin cars!
Guy
sean999r
02-01-2024, 17:10
Great article, I read before that Lancia race dept in development of the Stratos the original Ferrari 166 Dino F2 24V heads could not be used do to the carburetors packaging, Lancia re cast them with different Inlet Tracts, interesting to read Swindon Racing Engines still had a compromise in that area.
ProtoTipo
02-01-2024, 20:07
Great article, I read before that Lancia race dept in development of the Stratos the original Ferrari 166 Dino F2 24V heads could not be used do to the carburetors packaging, Lancia re cast them with different Inlet Tracts, interesting to read Swindon Racing Engines still had a compromise in that area.
Didn't Vittorio Brambilla drive an F2 car with the Lancia version of the 24v engine?
Eddie Cheever too.
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