Rear Wheel bearing play

I've been plagued with rear bearing play from day 1. Even with the hub nut tightened to FFT, there's still play. This caused rear wheel steer!!
I bit the bullet and removed both carriers to investigate further.....I discovered the bearings were slopping around in the carriers and could be pushed out by hand!!
These were new carriers and Whalley supplied bearings. Both were pressed in successfully and run for 1500 miles.
I'm posting them off to Andy @ Amtech in the new year to investigate further. Will update with results when known.

Gerry asked me to post the carriers to Andy his fabricator to investigate. See pics >>>> Attachment 1148Attachment 1149Attachment 1150Attachment 1151

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Originally Posted by strat6v

Problem stems from bearings being smaller than the carrier internal diameter. Seems many people are having this issue with hawk installations.

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The bearings supplied by John Whalley should be 72mm O/D.
If the upright I/D is over 72mm, that's where the problem might be.

I've got (72mm O/D) Vauxhall Astra bearings in mine now, and they're still ok.

Update... Carriers checked and are out of tolerence so will be replaced.
Gerry is supplying new rear uprights using Alfa bearings and hubs. Enables the use of the Alfa CV's and adapter removal...Will need new shaft too

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Originally Posted by ProtoTipo

If the upright I/D is over 72mm, that's where the problem might be..

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I guessed right then?

In deed so Chris. It was either going to be the carrier or bearing. Any thoughts on going to the Alfa set up?

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Originally Posted by Cadami

Any thoughts on going to the Alfa set up?

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I can't see an advantage Allen, unless you get more diameter at the outer end of the shaft (rather than the Beta 25 splines) Not that the Beta sized outer end (or Beta shafts and adapters) have been a problem to anyone?
You'd still need special shafts making up. All stock Alfa shafts are too long.

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Originally Posted by ProtoTipo

I can't see an advantage Allen, unless you get more diameter at the outer end of the shaft (rather than the Beta 25 splines) Not that the Beta sized outer end (or Beta shafts and adapters) have been a problem to anyone?

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It depends what you do with the car - the beta shafts have been known to break - Bernie broke some rallying & I broke some Sprinting with my last car & I dont think we are the only two to have broke them.. However I dont know if the Alfa ones are any better.......

Hi Neil,

Allen's asking what the pros are of using something bigger than a Beta/Delta hub and CV at the outer end.
I doubt there is one. Having same Alfa sized splines either end would make more sense, but you'd still need to have special shafts made up?
No mileage yet on any of these Alfa inner to Beta outer shafts, but I'm sure they'll be fine. You'd think they'd be better than Beta shafts with adapters?

There is a way of having larger splines on the outer end of a shaft and retaining the Beta/Delta hub and outer CV.
Jeff in the US found an outer CV that fits.

Allen,
Are these new Hawk uprights built to carry the 156/166 type cassette?