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This along with the extra -ve offset in the rear wheels when compared to the Roin or Marvic versions would equate to almost 20mm per side extra protrusion across the rims, add on to that the overlap of the 345 P Zero's and you can see why the arch extensions came to be, especially if the car went through IVA on those wheels.Quote:
Originally Posted by ProtoTipo
To illustrate Craig's point
Craig's right - Chris' car on the Compomotive rims looks spot on - the ride height, tyre profile and rim size really works well. It's just a real shame nobody's reproduced the original Stradale rims, as I'd go for a set of those for sure. He's also right in saying that the yellow Stradale (pic attached) is the best 'look'.
It's all too easy to get ride height, rim and tyre sizes wrong, and then the kit car really does look like a kit car - somehow all of the proportions look wrong and the car just doesn't sit right.
I'll wait and see a completed Stradale car on 16s, and try and make a judgement from there! In the meantime, I best get buying some lottery tickets!
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Would the camber change with suspension travel at the rear not adversely affect the handling with such wide tyres? Wouldn't it get worse as the wheel/tyre combinations get wider?
Henry
9" mag on a Hawk compared to 9" mag on an original Stratos.
I'm not sure how much wider the rear track of a Hawk is? Are there any figures?
Because it was already tested, I meant.Quote:
Originally Posted by ProtoTipo
'Like those mirrors on long stalks that turn into Vitaloni Californians.
Approx 10mm per side,it may just be the combination of this & the 270 tyre ballooning out over the rim which makes it look wider on your old car (just like with the 345 PZero's on the Gp4's).Quote:
Originally Posted by ProtoTipo
I do not know what size/offset the PAG's were that Enzo fitted later but they also looked a little wider set at the rear although they did have the narrower rubber fitted. The Stradale is also a difficult one for IVA as the rear arches cut back in to the rear of the car which exposes an awful lot of the wheel & tyre at the rear of the arch. Both of the pictures above look great from the front but both would be an IVA fail due to the cut on the arch
As Richard says it is so hard to get everything just right & with these cars we have so few options with tyres sizes to make the perfect combination. As stated earlier I would like to see a Stradale with the 215 TB 15" on an 8" rim F and something like a 255 TB 15" on the 9" rim R, this would give a nice 40mm differential between the front & rear tyres which would work for both aesthetics & handling.
With the number of people building Stradale's vs Gp4 cars it is very difficult to justify the additional tooling charge to produce the wider rear wheel with the extra step on the outer rim which we all agree is the best looking version for the Stradale.Quote:
Originally Posted by ah_sprite
Paul in NZ was the sole LB Stradale order for a number of years, there has been a slight resurgence for the narrow body in the last few years but we're still talking single figures.
Front PAG 8" PCD 5x108 offset 0Quote:
Originally Posted by Strat Fan
Rear PAG 9" PCD 5x108 offset -12
Spats fitted to satisfy IVA.
How do you go on with minimum radius requirements with the spats fitted? They look quite sharp at the outer edge.Quote:
Originally Posted by StruanR
The split rim wheels don't look to stick out as far as Skelly's coffin spokes did, a narrower rim maybe? This car doesn't look like it needs anywhere near the full spat, Alan's looked better once they were blended into the arches & painted over.
The mirrors will certainly meet the visibility requirements although I can't see the radii on the bases.
The rear bonnet pins would fail at Nottingham IVA for sure
I can't see what you have around the upper window frame, have you any other shots which would help show other builders the problem areas you have encountered on the builds you have done?
The spats were rounded, photo does not show that.
Mirrors were correctly radiused, but they look horrible, replaced after test....
Rear bonnet pins fitted by previous owner, removed for test for the same reasons.
Correct CE markings on side windows are hidden when fitted. Examiner was happy with build photos to show, without dismantling.
Beta boot lid lock too sharp, requires radiusing or fit later.
A lot is down to interpretation.
Struan
Here's the actual quoted data:Quote:
Originally Posted by Strat Fan
Original car: Track (front) 56.4" (Super Profile book)
Transformer: (front) 56.3" (Transformer Cars HF 2000 colour A5 brochure)
Original car: (rear) 57.4" (Super Profile book)
Transformer: (rear) 57.5" (Transformer Cars HF 2000 colour A5 brochure)
I was using this as the referenceQuote:
Originally Posted by ProtoTipo
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That'll be 57.4058" for the 1457mm (terra)
and 57.0118 for the 1447mm (fuso)
1447mm at zero camber = 56.968" or wasn't I listening at school?
The Hawks I have measured come in at 1465mm (57.677") at zero camber which is an 18mm difference on the rear track & is way off topic from Richards original post?
9mm per wheel then?
Back on topic:
Will 14" wheels fit the LB STR?
If so, Richard could go for either of the two Dino wheels. Cromodora 6.5x14" or Campagnolo ('chairs and flairs') 7.5x14".
Both of which were used on the works rally cars with gravel tyres, as seen on David Hanman's Safari car (when he hasn't got his yellow coffin spokes fitted).
Road tyres could be 205x70xR14, XWX, CN36, Blockley, or something cheaper.
Like that:
Six pages and counting!!!!! on the subject of a set of wheels. Richard must be getting very confused by now. The knowledge out there on this subject is incredible.
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Originally Posted by ProtoTipo
Those are the Campagnolo Ragno (Italian for spider), one of my favourite wheels. I was trying to find some for the Fulvia I was restoring some years ago. They're definitely not a cheap option, and not always easy to find.
Well, you know how the saying goes - ask a stupid question...Quote:
Originally Posted by Longtimefan
Thanks again for all the replies. It's got to be Coffin Spokes on the car, really - anything other than that or some original Stradale wheels, which is a bit more unlikely, but you never know....!
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HI.
Found this article really interesting, but due to being relatively new to stratos ownership i have had a bit of trouble following the finite difference between all of the coffin spoked wheels mentioned. Now i know this is a long shot does anybody have a picture of 1 or 2 or even 3 of these wheels side by side. just to clear the water for a novice. I have a green CAE on 17" rear 16" front and personally still think its off the scale looks wise. just like any another stratos on 15's 16's or 17's
Thanks Sach