And it would be an SV?
Miura on fire
Tom R.,
Is this heading your way?
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And it would be an SV?
Miura on fire
Tom R.,
Is this heading your way?
Very impressive!
Only five minutes to be entirely destroyed!
Sad day and big loss for the owner!
Brings back memories of watching my first Corse go up in flames.....:(
I feel sick. :(
The world has one less Muira - Very sad day.
Vince.
They do burn well don't they.
I have been in two Miuras that have caught fire.
The first one started misfiring and managed to rev the engine very hard and it sucked the fire out. The second not so lucky. By the time we pulled over the fire was well alight. Fired an extinguisher in through the rear louvres which put it out but it then relit and my extinguisher had run out. Then a very nice man in a council lorry stopped with the daddy of all extinguishers and put it out. Damage was bad but fixed in three weeks.
This car doesnt really look too badly damaged. We have had much worse in. It will be rebuilt.
To those that dont carry an extinguisher...get one ....its well worth it.
Tom
Tom
Thanks for your testimony and advice
I will put two extinguishers specially in my old car and in my Strato's!
Frederic
I thought you might have had some experience of this Tom?
Really? Is that because they're worth so much now? - like Rowan Atkinson's McLaren?Quote:
Originally Posted by tomsredstratos
I went with the fire extinguisher requirement for current rallying, 4.0 litre plumbed in and 2.4 litre hand held:
http://www.merlinmotorsport.co.uk/p1...duct_info.html
I've always carried fire extinguishers in all my cars, I'd have hoped they might have saved the Muira earlier if they were carrying one.
Vince.
Buy a FEV or lifeline GAS extinguisher, far better chance of the fire being put out. Foam types not that good, just buy you time to exit and make a hell of a mess. Gas extinguishers are much smaller too.
http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct...OTRzfPd7xfKl0w
Have a look at their products in action page, go to around 5.30 and watch the comparison tests on a tray of petrol. Gas puts the fire out real quickly, the foam can be seen to be chasing the flame around and only just puts the fire out before the extinguisher is depleted.
In a previous life I used to put out flames for a living, and I can second John's advice, Gas is by far the best method, Clean, Quick, and Efficient.
In the good old days of Halon, you would be supprised how large a fire such a small extinguisher could put out, and stay out!
I've gone gass for mine.
Talking of previous careers, our lass used to pull caravans around the peak district but had to pack in when she lost her teeth....
Cars of this value will always be rebuilt.
You would be surprised the parts certain people have been stashing away over the years for events like this.:rolleyes:
But seriously,keep an extinguisher handy.
Those first moments of a fire are your chance to stop it. So much hard work and hours goes into our hobby/projects and its a shame to lose them like this.
If they had fired an extinguisher and had the ignition turned off (fuel pump) I think they would be looking at an easier repair.
Tom.
hard to believe that a car worth this money does not have a full fire system fitted. Stupid not to!
Speaking as someone with little to no experience in this area (and hope never to!), this magazine article that I came across a while back seemed quite informative:
http://vmemag.epubxp.com/i/46635
(starts at P.62)
Also a question for someone with experience in this area: In the US, Halon is readily available. It's not manufactured anymore, but there are large stocks available and legally offered for sale, so most common options here are:
Halon (two types: 1211 and 1301)
FE36 (halon replacement, although seemingly not as efficient)
AFFF (aqueous foam)
and some others, but broadly falls along the lines of Halon, halon replacement, or foam
If I decide to plumb in a system, go for Halon then? any ideas about optimal size - as big as can fit or...? (Halon is sold by weight - 3lbs, 5lbs and 10lbs are common, whereas foam is sold by volume 2.25L or 4L)
Regards
Paul
The Halon replacements we have in the UK are supposed to be as good as Halon. I have a Zero 360 lifeline system with 2.25kg of gas (4 nozzles for the engine and 2 inside the car) This is the MSA aproved size for race/rally with that gas. FEV also do an equivalent same sized system. Personally I would go with a gas sstem as it is more effective than Afff and if it goes off by accident it dosent make a big mess! On the down side it is more expensive.Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul
Halon, Big as you can fit and your budget to stretch to! :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul
In Norway Halon is banned just as in the UK, but the US is buying it up from us so it is reused ;-)
But managed to get hold of a 2 kg, with a glass ampulle on top for auto activation ( 68 degrees ), but also a remote switch so putting a switch in the car. Widely used in enginebays of boats before they where banned.
So need to measure out where to put it so it does not blow.
Also carry a 2.4 liter OMP black edition foam inside the car. I have a 2 kg Halon handheld witch I am considdering putting in front of the drivers side, but need to make up a bracket for it.
What is more enviromental friendly, a Stratos burning up or me putting 4 kg. of Halon out in the air?
Do I care if I save the car, no!
Also, according to my sources, Halon is 5 times more efficient than CO2, so with 4 kg. of Halon on board, I should have the firepower equiviliant to 20 kg of CO2 + the 2.4 liter foam.
Hope I never need them... but the firepower is there....
I hope you got her some new ones John?Quote:
Originally Posted by strat24v
As I said Halon all the way, if you can get away with it.
I've found it! .... I looked all over..Quote:
Originally Posted by strat24v
What was the other one about someone staring longingly at the window?
That one wer lost on t southners Chris!:D
ThazreetQuote:
Originally Posted by strat24v