Anybody have a Lancia badged/engine V6 Busso Plenum cover for sale? Thanks
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Anybody have a Lancia badged/engine V6 Busso Plenum cover for sale? Thanks
I found mine on ebay Germany if that helps. I got the version off the Thesis.
Thanks, yes have been looking on ebay.
Is it a straight swap and everything fits/lines up, OR is the plenum just the start of a deep dive down a rabbit hole?
I think this has been for sale in Italy for a while.....
https://www.ebay.it/itm/335774023885...Bk9SR-Spz6e6Zg
You may have to persuade the seller to ship it to the UK or to someone you know in the EU who can ship it onwards?
No throttle body and the shape of the inlet looks different to the 12v I'm familiar with. Others will comment on its uyshape compared to the 24v one I'm sure.
Guy
I was thinking that it might be easier to get a machine shop to mill the Alfa branding off the top to get a flat surface and then bond some metal LANCIA letters on.
Not as nice as a proper swap IMHO, but may be easier
It takes that same type of TB that Rob Sanderson's Kappa 24v had.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guy Mayers
The thing is, the part with the LANCIA lettering looks like a separate part, (even though it isn't). So why not have some plates CNC'd to look the same, then bond them to Alfa plenums?
Club purchase?
Good idea, but that does not officially count as "regalia"Quote:
Originally Posted by ProtoTipo
Halifax WaterJet would just cut these in whatever metal wanted if they have a CAD file https://www.waterjetuk.com/
They can do dozens at the same time out of a single sheet. i have seen them in action and it is very impressive
We could get some done in gold, to hang round the neck? :DQuote:
Originally Posted by hollytree
Could someone give me these 24v dimensions?
(I've got a 12v one here)
I can draw in .dwg or .dxf, I just need the overall dimensions.
To complicate it, you could have the capacity of each:
LANCIA 2.5 24v
LANCIA 3.0 24v
LANCIA 3.2 24v
LANCIA 3.0 12v
or
LANCIA V6 24v
LANCIA V6 12v
LANCIA V6
Or
LANCIA V6 STRATOS
Hi Chris,
Just measured a V6 24V and a GTA 3.2 V6 plennum and got same measurements for each one - 75mm x 370mm
rgds Bob
Thanks for that Bob.Quote:
Originally Posted by mariner
2 slightly different typefaces:
I think the top one you've pictured is from the Lanca Kappa Coupe V6 Chris. Lower one is from the Thesis. Neither is commonly available....
The plenum and the front valve cover on the 164 12v engine I bought from Enzo. The letters appear to be machined in about 1/2 mm deep
Attachment 24338
Attachment 24339
And nailed on the wrong way round compared to the others... Not that it really matters!
Never thought before, but now that you mention it...Quote:
Originally Posted by Guy Mayers
Reads the right way when you open the clip and look at the engine from the rear of the car. Someone must have made a conscious decision to machine it that way
I think it look’s better the wrong way around, as it’s now on a rear mounted not front mounted.
The Lancia Thesis plenum I got is the same as the cf3 Alfa plenum, bolts straight on with no modification required. As you can see in the linked thread I’ve put it on a cf2 engine with just a bit of swapping the fittings at the throttle body end. The fitting I blanked now runs the vacuum for the fuel pressure regulator. The Kappa plenum has the different size and shape throttle body flange.
I best make sure I padlock the bonnet on my V6 Thesis next time I'm attending an event... :rolleyes::p
I still haven't seen the Thesis Richard.... I must get out more!
Gents there are also the Lancia Thema components, which results in the following arrangement; You will note that the Thema plenum is shaped to accommodate the dual flap throttle body (something I originally missed, and necessitated re-purposing of the original 164 plenum!!)
John. Looks great.
So it looks like?
The Lancia plate can be unscrewed from the valve cover
You machined the plenum and somehow got HF logo on (how?)
I eventually ended up with this arrangement, the Abarth HF badge came from ebay, and the Stratos badge was laser cut. Lancia STRATOS KEYRING HF RALLY RX 3.0 | eBay UK
I think I still have the original 3.0 V6 LS plenum in my boxes of spares
Steve, yes, the Lancia Plate can be unscrewed from the valve cover.
The Thema (& Thesis) collection is in five parts, the two valve covers, the ignition lead cover, and the decorative strip (yellow on my car)
There is a chap on ebay Germany that has three of the parts;
Ventildeckel Zyl. 4-6 Valve Cover Lancia Thema 3.0 V6 126 kw 60564956 | eBay.de
Ventildeckel Zyl. 1-3 Valve Cover Lancia Thema 3.0 V6 126 kw 1993 60572921 | eBay.de
Abdeckung Leiste Ventildeckel Valve Cover Lancia Thema 3.0 V6 126 kw 1993 | eBay.de
He is the chap I got mine from,
the fifth is the HT Lead support tray F?hrung Z?ndkabel Support Spark Wires Lancia Thema 3.0 V6 60564957 | eBay.de
there is also this plenum on ebay Germany that could be used as a basis
N V stutz ansaugkr?mmer v. f?r ALFA ROMEO 164 (164 ) 2.0 V6 TURBO 1987 -1998 | eBay.de
or this one
ALFA ROMEO 916 GTV Spider ORIGINAL Ansaugkr?mmer 3.0V6 12V 60591769 | eBay.de
My plenums were milled, the first (24v) just to relieve the space for the HF badge, and the second (12v) to allow for the HF Badge, and the laser cut Stratos font.
Both badges were then epoxy glued into position, with appropriate high temperature stuff, and have never given any indication of moving since.
Hope this helps, if you need any more info, let me know
I managed to get hold of a Thesis plenum, and then just machined off the Alfa Romeo off the over cover and then machined in V6 24V (enough thickness to remove the original writing and then machine in the v6 24v, after all it is just a cover), then just powder coated. It would be equally possible to keep the alfa plenum with V6 24V on it and then machine in whatever you wanted on the other cover. Attachment 24354
Thanks, I hadn't found this once despite me looking. However it certainly is different to the Alfa one fitted to mine.
See picture of one for sale on ebay
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/317130353...102727.m162921
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Originally Posted by Guy Mayers
Thanks for the info, mine is GTA 24V and the Plenum chamber looks quite different. Who did the machining of the coil pack cover for you? Attachment 24355
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Originally Posted by Rallynut
Brilliant :cool:
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Originally Posted by ah_sprite
That looks really good Euros.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallynut
No badging on the oil filler and OE clips on the intakes too.
I machined it myself, although took a few days as the cutter used had to be small dia to get the detail on lettering and numbers!
Not the plenum but the other cover (for the Kappa version) is available here ▷ No. 60595591 Valve Cover . I have used Bontoplaza before but had to arrange EU shipping address as they wont ship to UK now. No connection.