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    Re: Limited Slip Diffs

    There needs to be a weak point in the driveline somewhere, preferably somewhere cheap and easily replaced and that's usually a CV joint or a driveshaft, they tend to shear at the end of a spline and hopefully the rubber boot will keep the remains in place until you stop the engine.

    As I proved at Cornbury Rally Show (2011)..... albeit after a stupid man made yump

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    Just make sure you have spare drive shafts on the shelf !

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    Re: Limited Slip Diffs

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mayers View Post
    I've never heard of X19 driveshafts being fitted to a Hawk before,
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    I fitted them Guy.
    With adapters to a GTA box with its long inter shaft.
    I tested them for plunge through the whole suspension travel without springs on the struts.
    The shafts are the same dimensions (thickness), but slightly shorter and without that curved narrow part that the FWD Beta shafts have.
    I made sure that the shafts (you need 2 left shafts) were turning in the same direction as they had been on the original car. So the right shaft had to have its inner and outer ends reversed.
    'Never got to run them though.
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    Re: Limited Slip Diffs

    'Forgot to say;
    because the 1500 X1/9 LH shafts normally have Lobros at both ends, there's no steering type CV 'C' clip grove at one end.
    'Just a circlip groove at both ends.

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    Re: Limited Slip Diffs

    Quote Originally Posted by ProtoTipo View Post
    'Forgot to say;
    because the 1500 X1/9 LH shafts normally have Lobros at both ends, there's no steering type CV 'C' clip grove at one end.
    'Just a circlip groove at both ends.
    Chris please enlighten me as to how the x1/9 shaft secures inside a wheel cv joint. I have looked at the GKN Lobros catalogue but it silent....

    Maybe it does not so this is another issue. The current Beta end ring clip is not strong enough on full droop to retain the shaft.

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    Re: Limited Slip Diffs

    Quote Originally Posted by Lancialulu View Post
    Chris please enlighten me as to how the x1/9 shaft secures inside a wheel cv joint. I have looked at the GKN Lobros catalogue but it silent....

    Maybe it does not so this is another issue. The current Beta end ring clip is not strong enough on full droop to retain the shaft.
    That's what I mean. The circlip groove is no use with a FWD steering type CV joint. It would need to be modified (by precise grinding) to fit the normal Beta outer CV joint 'C' clip.
    Having said that, some people don't bother with the outer CV 'C' clip at all, and they do vary with how well they retain the outer CV.
    I had one on my Honda engined Hawk that would not come off. 'Ended up having to trash the outer CV to save the special Honda to Beta drive shaft.

    Here's another thing; the X1/9 stub shaft does fit into the Beta/Integrale hub/flange. So you could have Lobros at either end of the shaft.

    The only reason I looked at the short 1500 X1/9 shaft, was because of the long GTA intershaft leaving zero space for (Alfa V6 to Lancia Beta inner Lobro CV) shaft adapters.
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    Re: Limited Slip Diffs

    Phil, I fully understand the hammers but the axe?

    I have a hammer in my hand most of the day but feel I'm missing out!

    Tom

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    Re: Limited Slip Diffs

    Quote Originally Posted by tomsredstratos View Post
    Phil, I fully understand the hammers but the axe?

    I have a hammer in my hand most of the day but feel I'm missing out!

    Tom
    NOTHING WRONG WITH AN AXE IN YOUR TOOLBOX TOM !!!!....... IT'S JUST IN CASE A FELLOW COMPETITIOR BEATS MY TIME !!... LOL

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    Re: Limited Slip Diffs

    Tom, there's a simple explanation - it's in case he gets shafted. Boom-boom :-)

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    Re: Limited Slip Diffs

    2 questions now, do many Stratos run LSD,s with Beta/ X1/9 driveshaft's on, will I change the handling very much, more understeer. I've noticed a lot of wheel spin on the inside wheel on tight bends this is why I am thinking of getting one. Is it important that they both shafts run in the right direction, I have fitted the X1/9 ones like they came off just with Integrale CV,s on them, they seem quite a good fit or at least I thought so at the time.
    should the hammer/axe be on Dragons den, hammer on one end axe on the other. would save a bit of space.

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