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    Re: Stratos Hawk kit, what you get?

    Then a fair amount of donor car parts..................

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    Re: Stratos Hawk kit, what you get?

    You will get a lot of support and make a whole bunch of great friends (whichever Statos kit you choose) and a huge sense of achievement when it (finally) hits the road!

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    Re: Stratos Hawk kit, what you get?

    Cheers guys. I looked into buying a stratos a few years ago and got very close but had a change of heart at the last moment and went for a GT40. I've got a few options for my next project and a stratos is very much at the top of the list but I want to go into any build with my eyes open as to what to expect and a clear idea of cost. It looks like a very similar build to my GT40 were I've had to do all the metal panelling myself and fabricate some parts or have them made.

    Could you give me an idea of the cost needed for a complete kit, additional parts and donor parts. So really a ball park figure for everything I'd need to build the car?

    Trev

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    Re: Stratos Hawk kit, what you get?

    25k. If you start with rebuilt engines, throttle bodies, aftermarket ecu's and big brakes, add another 10k

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    Re: Stratos Hawk kit, what you get?

    How long is a piece of string? It'll depend on final spec, a Stradale is a cheaper base kit than a Gp4 and will cost less for wheels and tyres too. Most people who go the Gp4 route tend to spend a bob or two more on paint too. Originality has a cost too. £150 for a pair of inner door handles or a lot less from the scrapyard. Dino Coupe front indicators? Hundreds too but there are alternatives out there. How much work will you farm out to specialists or will you do it all yourself? Engine & box spec? An Alfa V6 is almost de rigeur these days but an early 12v from the 164 or a later 24v from the GTV or 166? Rebuild costs if needed? Want a slippy diff? Add an extra £600 if the donor hasn't got one!

    At the end of the day I'll bet there's not many of us who kept a track of costs accurately either! Force me into putting a number down and I think I'd say a minimum of £25k for a decent V6 Stradale and £30k for a Gp4 car.

    Scary innit!? But then spend that on a mainstream car and in 5 years it's worth under £5k whereas a Hawk or Lister Bell is still likely to be worth £25k if it's a quality build.

    If you're contemplating a build for potential resale (some people get the satisfaction from building not driving) then I'd seriously council building with LHD as the resale market is much bigger and won't put off many UK buyers. That's my only regret with mine!

    Cheers

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    Re: Stratos Hawk kit, what you get?

    Quote Originally Posted by strat24v View Post
    25k. If you start with rebuilt engines, throttle bodies, aftermarket ecu's and big brakes, add another 10k
    Yep, I'll second that.
    You can't do a new build for less than £25k.

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    Re: Stratos Hawk kit, what you get?

    Thanks Guy, some valuable info. I know how the costs can get out of hand on these projects, my GT40 has gone very much like that as I have opted for all the good stuff like bias adjustable brakes and want the car to look as original as possible so have sourced some original parts. I think I must be £20k in already without engine or bodywork. Realistically looking at £40k for my GT40 so I can totally appreciate the costs involved.

    I've seen a few of this forum's car at shows in the past and I always like seeing your car Guy. Not sure why you regret not going for LHD, I can understand you getting more money in Eurpoe for the car but your not considering selling it are you and surely it's better to have the right car for you and not think about resale too much? If you do consider parting with it, give me a shout.

    Trev

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    Re: Stratos Hawk kit, what you get?

    Thanks for the comments Trev, despite the issues I've had with it in the last 12 months (Rear End Rebuild Thread) I can't see me ever parting with it! At the start of the build all I wanted was a nice Stradale. Got in with the wrong crowd and went down the originality route as far as possible until it evolved into what it is now. Conversion to LHD is possible but not really practical!

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    Re: Stratos Hawk kit, what you get?

    Quote Originally Posted by ProtoTipo View Post
    I don't think you get the gear linkage?

    Is that right Jeff?
    gear linkage is extra - Gerry does sell one.

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    Re: Stratos Hawk kit, what you get?

    For a top-end liveried GP4 car more like £60k and another £100k for the right engine and gearbox, hubs, wheels....!
    And we'll still pick holes in it, steering rack, suspension are wrong, cabin should be steel, sills too deep .... can't use racing numbers unless you're competing, stickers are wrong, mechanical tacho not fitted, not that Joe Public knows or cares...
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