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    Stratos Hawk kit, what you get?

    Hi all

    I've started looking into Stratos replica's again as a possible next project once my GT40 replica is finished. I am probably looking to go for a Alfa engined Hawk kit and have just been having a look at the kit prices again but I am not quite clear what you get with a Hawk kit for £11706. Does anyone have a full list of components that come with the kit and a list of components that don't? Also if anyone has any pictures of how the kit arrives (is it a rolling chassis?) that would be really useful. Finally I know a lot of stratos builders consider these cars to be a difficult kit to build. Can I ask what the main challenges are, is it metal fabrication, fiberglass work etc?

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    Trevor

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    Re: Stratos Hawk kit, what you get?

    The biggest challenge by far is time, if you've got a lot of other things going on in your life then these projects can drag on.

    When I start a project I like to finish it so I really committed the time to my first build and we more or less got the car on the road within 12 months. I'd never built a car before in my life but its just like a giant jigsaw puzzle you just are one step at a time. It's a lot easier now as you have the forum to get advice from, we didn't even have the Internet back in my day.

    The cars are relatively easy to build but again this really depends on your own ability, ingenuity, experience, tools and equipment. If you've built a GT40 already you obviously aren't coming into this fresh faced.

    Good choice as a next project though, I'm still enjoying my car after 24 years as much as I did when I first built it.

    Vince.
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    Re: Stratos Hawk kit, what you get?

    Quick ... the worms are escaping .....

    As you've already built a kit car, then you'll already be forewarned and forearmed. Building a Stratos replica isn't without it's challenges. With the Hawk kit there is certainly an amount of body work required, but this isn't to say the LB kit doesn't have it's own share too. There will be mechanical fabrication required too and a fair number of components to find. The hawk is recognised as the most faithful replica, and if you're looking for that then the Hawk is the obvious choice. If you're more flexible and looking for the spirit of the car then the LB is definitely worth considering.

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    Re: Stratos Hawk kit, what you get?

    Quote Originally Posted by TrevS View Post
    but I am not quite clear what you get with a Hawk kit for £11706.
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    Trevor
    It's over £14k when you add the VAT. Here's what you don't get:
    Roof wing
    Rear spoiler
    2 Fuel tanks
    Mechanisms for raising the door windows
    Mechanisms for raising the headlamp pods
    Front grille
    Shock absorbers and springs
    Wiring loom
    Alloy bulkhead
    Front and rear splash panels
    Alloy trims for the 'A' pillar and rain gutters

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    Re: Stratos Hawk kit, what you get?

    You do get:

    Windscreen
    Door windows
    Rear louvres
    Front louvres
    Centre tunnel interior covers
    Dashboard, dash binnacle and fascia
    Door bins
    Rear lamp surrounds
    All the suspension parts (not the steering rack though. I should have added that the other list. I don't think you get the ARBs too?)

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    Re: Stratos Hawk kit, what you get?

    Thanks for the info. Do you get wheels, brakes, radiator, rad pipes, any sort of AC unit? Also is there any aluminium panelling to do and again do the panels come with the kit? What about smaller parts like the fuel filler pipes and caps?

    Also does the kit come with a build manual? My GT40 has one and while the build never goes exactly as the manual says it's very useful.

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    Re: Stratos Hawk kit, what you get?

    Quote Originally Posted by TrevS View Post
    Thanks for the info. Do you get wheels, brakes, radiator, rad pipes, any sort of AC unit? Also is there any aluminium panelling to do and again do the panels come with the kit? What about smaller parts like the fuel filler pipes and caps?

    Also does the kit come with a build manual? My GT40 has one and while the build never goes exactly as the manual says it's very useful.
    You get a build manual.
    The only alloy panels you get are the floors, which are already fastened in. The front alloy panels and rear alloy (splash) panels are at extra cost, but available.
    No, you don't get wheels, brakes, radiator, rad pipes etc. You don't get fuel filler pipes or caps.

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    Re: Stratos Hawk kit, what you get?

    I don't think you get the gear linkage?

    Is that right Jeff?

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    Re: Stratos Hawk kit, what you get?

    Dont think the aluminium firewall is included either.

    Included items are

    Powdercoated chassis with aluminium floor pre fitted

    Front upper wishbones with various spacers, nuts, bolts and rod ends
    Lower front transverse arm with spacers and rod end (no bottom ball joint, no front uprights)
    Lower radius arms with clevis and rod end
    Steering arms
    Steering rack mounts

    Rear lower wishbone with spacers and rod end bearing
    rear radius arm with bushes/bearings
    Bare rear upright

    Pedal set with mounting bar and servo link
    Track rod end adaptors
    split alloy steering column bearing
    Four door hinges
    Front clam hinges
    rear clam hinges
    Boot lid hinges
    Front engine mount
    gearbox mount
    engine steady bar
    Engine mounting rubber bushes (x3)
    Windscreen (non heated)

    Centre tub
    2 door outers
    2 door inners
    2 door helmet bins
    dash moulding/s
    Ally dash fascia (stradale)
    2 Perspex side windows
    2 centre tunnel mouldings
    Rear clam
    Two rear light surrounds
    Boot lid
    Rear louvre panel
    front clam
    4 ally louvres
    2 pop up headlight mouldings
    2 front lamp covers
    2 pop up lamp housing covers
    Last edited by strat24v; 27-03-2013 at 18:24.

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    Re: Stratos Hawk kit, what you get?

    What you DON'T get

    Front grill
    Headlamp raising mechanism
    Lights
    Body pin bases
    Multi piece ally inner wheel arches
    Radiator and fans
    coolant pipes
    Steering rack
    front shocks and springs
    Front uprights
    Front wheel bearings
    Rear wheel bearings
    Rear hubs
    Front hubs and dust caps
    Lower ball joints
    Steering column universal joint
    Intermediate steering shaft
    Steering column
    Heater/fan unit
    Heater piping
    Gear lever and linkage
    Door catches (need modifying)
    door lock links
    Ally firewall
    Fuel tanks
    Fuel caps and fittings
    Rear struts
    Rear strut top mounts
    Engine bay splash/stoneguard panels
    Boot heatshield
    Exhaust system
    Rear body pins
    front anti roll bar and links
    Rear anti roll bar and links
    Screen surround
    Window lift kit
    Door cappings
    Gutters
    Group 4 arches
    Group 4 quad pod and cover
    roof vent
    Tail spoiler
    Roof spoiler
    Front chin spoiler
    Lower front lamp pods
    Wheel rims
    Tyres
    Wiring loom, fuse box and relays
    Interior trim panels
    Last edited by strat24v; 27-03-2013 at 18:26.

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