Litton Corse build with 2.0l Lancia 8v TC

**john** · 14-10-2015, 22:39

Steve Greenwood era.

**ProtoTipo** · 15-10-2015, 08:59

Originally Posted by john

Steve Greenwood era.

Yes, because I've just noticed that the gearshift on this car is the same as the one I have now (ex Tom R. Allora). I thought it was a one off, but obviously not.
I once had a chat with the first owner of Tom's Allora, and he described it as a 'Litton'.

**Strat Fan** · 15-10-2015, 10:33

Paul's car is unquestionably a Litton & quite an early one at that.
The gear linkage you describe is a Litton part for sure, I remember boxes of those laser parts in the Litton workshop back in the late '80's, the yellow demonstrator car was fitted with the same set up.
I remember working on an Allora in the Litton workshop but that was a Yellow car. It had Lada top front wishbones that were interfering with the Compomotive split rim wheels.

**Paul Eustace** · 15-10-2015, 12:05

The front shock top mount is welded on. Steve Greenwood gave me a couple of 'temporary front springs' with 2.25" ID but unmatched rates (300 and 350lbs) and promised to send me the correct 200lb springs later. These did eventually arrive but I didn't fit them for years and recently I realised they were 2.5" ID.

I will measure the Leda shocks as I don't appear to have the specification in my paperwork. I would have liked them to be 10mm shorter.

With the correct springs fitted the track rod arms almost touch the top link at full droop plus full lock but they do miss by 3mm. I have to be careful with steering rack gaiters as the previous version I used did get caught in the gap when testing in the workshop on axle stands! If this proves to be an issue I will consider limiting the steering lock, move the top mount up or a shorter shock. Anyone had any issues with front shock length?

The gear change was I believe a Steve Greenwood creation. For some reason I designed my own gear change solution in the car but I liked Steve's gearbox solution.

**john** · 15-10-2015, 12:36

Yes Paul. Many issues with Corse front shock lengths and suspension travel. Everyone seems to have ended up with something different over time.
Always useful to compare notes!

**Strat Fan** · 15-10-2015, 15:57

Originally Posted by Paul Eustace

I will measure the Leda shocks as I don't appear to have the specification in my paperwork. I would have liked them to be 10mm shorter.

With the correct springs fitted the track rod arms almost touch the top link at full droop but they do miss by 3mm. I have to be careful with steering rack gaiters as the previous version I used did get caught in the gap when testing in the workshop on axle stands! If this proves to be an issue I will consider limiting the steering lock, move the top mount up or a shorter shock. Anyone had any issues with front shock length?

I specced a front coil over with a 16" open length & 100mm of travel on a Corse "S" chassis I built up, the tyre diameter was 605mm this will be slightly larger than your wheel tyre combination, it may be that you simply run with less ground clearance.

**Paul Eustace** · 16-10-2015, 12:17

My Leda shocks are approximately 410mm open length and appear to have 125mm of travel before the bump stop comes into play.

**MichaelEustace** · 24-01-2014, 15:42

Originally Posted by Strat Fan

Hello Michael,

Welcome, nice to see the car getting completed after all these years. I had a rifle through your FB gallery & the build looks very thorough with some interesting modifications/additions.

If I can start the IVA list with a couple of points-

1) Radius end on tail pipe
2) Emissions, how do you intend to approach this? Do you have a V5 doc that tallies to the new engine?

Regards

Thanks for your comments Craig. I will check on what is planned regarding the tailpipe. I have read elsewhere that the tailpipe should have a radius if it protrudes from the bodywork by more than 10mm, however the exhaust is underneath the rear body work, not protruding through it. I assume this will mean it needs a radius?

We have a V5 that tallies with the engine, the Beta HPE was scraped but this was never declared to the DVLA. From what I have read on the forum, this seems to be the right way to go so as to retain the V5.

Thanks, Michael

**Strat Fan** · 24-01-2014, 17:45

Originally Posted by MichaelEustace

I will check on what is planned regarding the tailpipe. I have read elsewhere that the tailpipe should have a radius if it protrudes from the bodywork by more than 10mm, however the exhaust is underneath the rear body work, not protruding through it. I assume this will mean it needs a radius?

We have a V5 that tallies with the engine, the Beta HPE was scraped but this was never declared to the DVLA. From what I have read on the forum, this seems to be the right way to go so as to retain the V5.

Thanks, Michael

The exhaust will be contactable so will require a radiused end, they use a cone to determine the plan of the body & it goes a long way under the boot panel of a Stratos replica due to the height of the bodywork.

Good news on having a V5 which tallies to the engine, double check that the engine number on the doc is the same as the one on the block, also make sure that you can read the number on the block easily & that it doesn't look to have been tampered with in any way. You will therefore be emissions tested on the age of the engine rather than having to meet a current emissions standard.

When you have passed the IVA test & gone through the rigmarole with the DVLA you should then be issued with a new V5 doc which has a previously unused registration from the year of the donor car.

Regards

**MichaelEustace** · 25-01-2014, 11:27

Originally Posted by Strat Fan

The exhaust will be contactable so will require a radiused end, they use a cone to determine the plan of the body & it goes a long way under the boot panel of a Stratos replica due to the height of the bodywork.

Good news on having a V5 which tallies to the engine, double check that the engine number on the doc is the same as the one on the block, also make sure that you can read the number on the block easily & that it doesn't look to have been tampered with in any way. You will therefore be emissions tested on the age of the engine rather than having to meet a current emissions standard.

When you have passed the IVA test & gone through the rigmarole with the DVLA you should then be issued with a new V5 doc which has a previously unused registration from the year of the donor car.

Regards

Thanks for all the info Craig, all very helpful.

I guess something will have to be done about the tailpipe as, from looking in the IVA manual, there's no way of satisfying a radius curvature of 2.5mm at present.

Yes all good about the engine, specifically on the emissions front. I could imagine trying to meet modern emissions on a Beta TC to be challenging if we did not have the V5.

Thanks, Michael