All the 164 looms I've had in my hands have perished cable inside the sleeving and sticky tape. Today, 164's aren't the best starting point due to parts availability, the later 156/166's are a better donor choice.
Hi all.
Well, I`ve placed my order with Gerry and have started the journey.
I`ve never built a kit before but have played cars all my life and done some fairly extensive projects so am still full of confidence at the moment!
So far I`ve picked bits from a X19, gathered a few lamps ,instruments, switches etc and currently ending the life of a 164. I have trawled the forum but can`t find any advise on best dismantling practice.... As I`m intending to install the engine with the standard ecu (at least to start with!) should I carefully unpick the Alfa loom to isolate the engine management wiring and connect this, or is this a bit optimistic! Maybe start again with a few spools of cable and a wiring diagram. Where`s the easiest to follow wiring diagram?
Thanks in anticipation.
- Simon.
All the 164 looms I've had in my hands have perished cable inside the sleeving and sticky tape. Today, 164's aren't the best starting point due to parts availability, the later 156/166's are a better donor choice.
Already got the 164! So as a general principle, would you attempt to salvage the existing management loom?
Yeah, strip it out, it's seperate from the rest of the cars wiring. It'll need modifying quite a bit so I'd suggest stripping the tape and sleeving off and checking it all.
The engine and ECU looms are mainly sel-contained. You need to attach about 5 wires to the main car loom, something like earths, ignition pos, permanent pos, tachometer feed. The rubber boots on the engine bit will need to be replaced.
Yes, the 164 engine loom just unplugs from the main loom.
As John says you really need to mod the positions of the coil, relays, ecu and fuel pump feeds (etc....) so that stripping off the outer wrap from the loom is vital anyway.
Can only echo what has been said about 164 donors tho', having just gone through the process of restoring a 164 engined car.......
If it didn't cost you a fortune, then throwing it away now might prove cost effective ultimately.
The last 164 looms insulation was perished badly, if you held a single wire and gently rubbed the insulation, it would drop off the conductor.
Blimey! Not seen it that bad.
Thanks for all that advice guys. I think I`ll persevere with the 164 (Won`t have to admit I wasted my money!) I`ll label everything and carry on dismantling.
Does Gerry`s 300 hours include all this?
Simon.
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