Lister Bell STR for sale

[ironman523]

Good to hear that you will be doing another one :-). Guessing you will do another works car ?
How long does it take to complete a LB ? I heard it all just bolts together from the factory.

I am in the midst of building a Listerbell and would say that there is a general misconception that the car just bolts together with bugger all thought in a few weeks. The Listerbell is a huge commitment in money and time and effort and everything else that am sure Hawk builders are familiar with in exactly the same way. Yes it's better engineered and developed etc but that doesn't make it easy, it is still a challenging thing to attempt and no one should be under any illusion if they decide to undertake it. Yes if you had some know how and all the bits you could probably throw something together that resembles a car in 6 weeks but it would have no attention to detail and no quality of build and what's the good in that. So no it doesn't all just bolt together, there's a bit more to it than that.

[ProtoTipo]

The Listerbell is a huge commitment in money and time and effort and everything else that am sure Hawk builders are familiar with in exactly the same way.

A good yardstick here is comparing Mick's Hawk build to his LB STR.
Looking back on this forum, I'm surprised at how similar the time span was.
I know Mick's STR was on the road and registered, so time for that needs to be taken into account, but the Hawk was a pre owned kit and would have needed a bit more head scratching. The time for the former on the LB might cancel out the latter, on the Hawk?

[Stratos Fear]

In terms of ease of construction of the LB kit I would echo Ironman's comments. I am a novice builder (last kit was a beach buggy in 1970 !) and I am finding it a challenge. Craig has not got a build manual and appears to be too busy to write one (although I did offer to write one as I go). Craig believes that photos should enable any builder to resolve any queries - and although they help enormously (via a Dropbox account) there are still many detailed questions that I as a novice builder have. Having said this I am making progress - although perhaps not as fast as I would like. But then we never go as fast as we would like with this sort of build do we? - life tends to get in the way!
Peter C

[ProtoTipo]

Is this where Mick's car still is?:
http://qclassiccars.be/EN/stock/detail.aspx#!240

[Strat Fan]

I think so,
The RHD and UK registration may hinder its market potential if they are actually trying to sell it on.
Belgium, like many other places in Europe is a difficult place to register UK kit cars.

[pim]

I think so,
The RHD and UK registration may hinder its market potential if they are actually trying to sell it on.
Belgium, like many other places in Europe is a difficult place to register UK kit cars.

Well if the car is properly registered in the UK no problem, i mean a new VIN and make / model not an existing VIN and Lancia Beta or something. Not speaking for Belgium but in Holland the biggest issue is the tax to be paid. For a car like this i think around 15.000 Euro's or more. ( if its a gasoline car, when registered as a diesel it is far less tax, crazy stuff )
I am still hoping to get my 037 through IVA ( instead of Dutch registration ) in the UK just because it is a bit easier on your side of the pond.
So me i am hoping Brexit is still not final yet. But i am sure some of you wil disagree.... ; )
And of course love to visit the UK again. Always like it there and realy love youre kind of humor.

[Strat Fan]

Well if the car is properly registered in the UK no problem, i mean a new VIN and make / model not an existing VIN and Lancia Beta or something. Not speaking for Belgium but in Holland the biggest issue is the tax to be paid. For a car like this i think around 15.000 Euro's or more.

The car is correctly registered in the UK as a Lister Bell STR with a date of first registration of April 2015.
I do not know what the requirement in Belgium is but I assume that a car with that year of first registration should meet Euro 6 emissions which the Alfa 2.5 24v does not.
As you also say new registrations and larger engines also command higher taxes.

[pim]

The car is correctly registered in the UK as a Lister Bell STR with a date of first registration of April 2015.
I do not know what the requirement in Belgium is but I assume that a car with that year of first registration should meet Euro 6 emissions which the Alfa 2.5 24v does not.
As you also say new registrations and larger engines also command higher taxes.

Yes taht is right in Holland tax is calculated from hordepower and weight, so the smaller end lighter the better. Emmissions have to comply with the existing regulations from the year of registration.