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    Re: Corse I rear suspension failure

    Here's a couple of pics of one I did about 8 years ago. I used an extra tube to brace the bracket & then filleted it inside & out with 3mm plates. This was on a Thema 8.32/Ferrari version of the chassis.
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    Re: Corse I rear suspension failure

    Quote Originally Posted by Strat Fan View Post
    Here's a couple of pics of one I did about 8 years ago. I used an extra tube to brace the bracket & then filleted it inside & out with 3mm plates. This was on a Thema 8.32/Ferrari version of the chassis.
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    As I am taking the engine out, should I switch to one of your cable gear change setups?. Do you do 5 speed to fit the Corse tub?

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    Re: Corse I rear suspension failure

    Hi,

    Slightly worrying to read this thread having just driven to and from Stoneleigh but after a quick check this morning found no problems with my car.
    Another project now added to the list - will probably be much easier to modify and beef up in some way before any breakage.
    Hopefully fabricate something with engine in with a view to improving at a later date next time engine out.

    rgds Bob

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    Re: Corse I rear suspension failure

    Bob, surely you've heard about this problem before?
    Steve, that is worrying with so little use.
    It looks as if the box section has actually torn from the photo. Is that correct?
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    Re: Corse I rear suspension failure

    Quote Originally Posted by john View Post
    Bob, surely you've heard about this problem before?
    Steve, that is worrying with so little use.
    It looks as if the box section has actually torn from the photo. Is that correct?
    The weld on the tube section has completely torn away from the tube. This allows the wishbone tube to rotate and this has torn the weld out of the box section. The white line is the shiny bare metal from engine side.

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    750 miles total.

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    Re: Corse I rear suspension failure

    Quote Originally Posted by hollytree View Post
    The weld on the tube section has completely torn away from the tube. This allows the wishbone tube to rotate and this has torn the weld out of the box section. The white line is the shiny bare metal from engine side.

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    750 miles total.
    The mod looks OK-ish. Not ideal though as it's still in single shear but certainly better with it than without it, but it was let down by zero penetration on that weld by the look of it. Given the situation, reworking what you have there already to copy Craig's solution looks like the best way forward. You should be able to do that pretty easily once the damage to the right side has been resolved as you already know it will clear OK.

    Could even consider a combination of that and Neil's solution for a proper belt & braces job.

    Tim Page had his car modded after we spotted the same flaw. Sadly, the guys that did it took two stabs as the gearbox fouled their first effort.

    Still amazes me that either Steve and/or Hugh let that go - seems so out of character.
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    Re: Corse I rear suspension failure

    3 hours, engine and gearbox out

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    Re: Corse I rear suspension failure

    I think Steve's input had ceased by the time the Corse moved on to Alfa specific engine cradles, although it seems the rear suspension on the Corse I was always a work in progress.

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    Re: Corse I rear suspension failure

    Quote Originally Posted by john View Post
    Bob, surely you've heard about this problem before?
    Steve, that is worrying with so little use.
    It looks as if the box section has actually torn from the photo. Is that correct?
    Hi John,

    No not heard about this before other than knowing about Neil's/Arthur's which I had obviously wrongly thought was a one off problem.
    Never mind there seem to be a few ways to rectify it especially as mine isn't broken yet.

    rgds Bob

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    Re: Corse I rear suspension failure

    Right, so it looks like the top forward wishbone mount has failed and that has allowed the wishbone to twist backwards and in so doing that has torn the corner of the square tube as the weld has broken away.
    If you intend to follow the advice here I would not rip the engine out just yet as you need to ensure that the extra plates, tubes or whatever you add in do not foul anything. Particularly at the gearbox side as the box is very close to the frame.
    It goes without saying that you will mod both sides of the chassis while you are at it?

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