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    Re: New Michigan Member

    Quote Originally Posted by MooglyMoog View Post
    That actually sounds pretty cool. How expensive?

    I was thinking 4G63 turbo. It's the closest semi Chrysler engine I could get with a manual trans. DSM motors. =)

    Erm - about £15k+ I think. Can check if you are really interested. Should be over there on Wed this week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LPH_UK View Post
    Erm - about £15k+ I think. Can check if you are really interested. Should be over there on Wed this week.
    Ha, yeah, that's a bit out of my budget. I am curious how high it revs though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MooglyMoog View Post
    Ha, yeah, that's a bit out of my budget. I am curious how high it revs though.
    I'll ask when I'm there on Wed and report back

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    Saw him today and asked. He does various versions of the engines from almost stock to 500+HP with fully forged internals.

    Standard(ish) engine with original crank and rods, balanced and with lightweight flywheel and their custom ITBs fitted should make 400hp. Said it should rev to at least 8000, probably be OK at 8500. Would cost 10-12k on top of buying the second hand engine to start with as the base for the rebuild.

    It's a very compact engine. Much smaller than the Alfa or Toyota lumps. It's only a little bit wider than a Honda K20 4 cyl engine (which is the guys other specialty).
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    I sourced a Alfa v6 in the usa, it came from Japan with transmission, struts and hubs .. $1800 delivered. There are also Alfa 164's available ,,, few and far between but if your 3 years out you will definately get a compete can for about $3,500.
    BTW i think the lead time for a Lister Bell kit is a few years, check with Graig they are busy over there with a full order book.

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    I spoke with Lydia? a few days ago and she said the wait is about a year for a kit.

    I think I've decided on a Turbo 4G63 as I have been looking into a turbo build and a 4g63 is partly a Chrysler product.

    AVFC80, Thanks for that info, however im not much of a originalist when it comes to the engine.
    Short of fitting in a hemi (because "its got a hemi") or a pantera engine, I think I'll stick with this. 4G63 parts are very easy to come by (my main worry with the alfa v6 and 164) and I can get more power out of it for less money.

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    Yes the wait is about a year for a kit .... but a standard kit I guess
    seems you write you are decided on adifferent engine they had developed the mounting points, mounting brackets , drive shafts , cooling etc etc so means you are in capacity of doing all that stuuf on your own onto a bare un painted cahssis ????
    Congrats !! will follow with big interest if you start on the forum your built
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    Quote Originally Posted by MooglyMoog View Post
    I spoke with Lydia? a few days ago and she said the wait is about a year for a kit.

    I think I've decided on a Turbo 4G63 as I have been looking into a turbo build and a 4g63 is partly a Chrysler product.

    AVFC80, Thanks for that info, however im not much of a originalist when it comes to the engine.
    Short of fitting in a hemi (because "its got a hemi") or a pantera engine, I think I'll stick with this. 4G63 parts are very easy to come by (my main worry with the alfa v6 and 164) and I can get more power out of it for less money.
    Ok no problem... one thing to note is that I was told these chassis can be a handful so I'm told from a horsepower perspective less is more. There may be other guys running a lot of horsepower so check with them on this. BTW I have 2000Bhp in the garage so I'M not afraid of a few ponies.

    good luck with the project!

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    Welcome to Michigan. I have a Hawk Chassis that was delivered last October. Very long term project for me but happy to swap Stratos stories anytime. I'm heading down the Frankenstein Ferrari engine route (big capacity / big valve 308QV engine) which I am in the process of building right now. Happy to show you the car anytime.

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    Re: New Michigan Member

    Lister Bell owners: Can someone measure the width between the frame members of the rear sub-frame? Also, the height between them? I need rough dimensions for packaging purposes. Im trying to decide if I can fit a Hemi in a Stratos.

    Also, Ilmor, Can you measure the height and width of you engine, including the accessory drive?

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