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    Re: New LB builder in Reading

    If I don't go with a donor car, are there any UK based specialist Alfa breakers I can contact to request "the standard Stratos donor parts" from ?

    Just making sure I'm not reinventing the wheel in my googling

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    Re: New LB builder in Reading

    If you don't go with a donor car, you will not have a vehicle identity to which your donor parts will relate. Therfore you would have to prove the age of the engine (and maybe other parts) to the IVA inspectors. A difficult thing to do.
    You may well end up with a Q plate then.
    If you are opting to build from all new parts and get a brand new registration then you will have invoices for the engine etc which will have a date on them and may well identify the engine manufacture date or its emissions data.
    If you satisfy the inspectors and the registration people you would then get a brand new registration plate just as you would if you buy a Ford from a showroom.

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    Re: New LB builder in Reading

    As far as I know you can have one 'reconditioned' component on a brand new car with Respect of IVA. My Alfa engine and box have been rebuild to 'as new' and I have a receipt from the builders plus all the parts receipts to support this. However it may be that the engine and gearbox are seen as 2 parts (I'm pretty sure they are).

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    Re: New LB builder in Reading

    It would be a bit bloody minded if they baulked at giving you a new registration by calling an engine and gearbox two components. Is that what you are going for Leigh? New reg?

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    Re: New LB builder in Reading

    Plan is for a new reg if I can - or at least one newer than the donor. If I can get it registered as new it opens up a few plates I have an eye on that are newer than my donor car. There may be ways around it - it's all in the wording you use I think.

    But it's not the end of the world if I can't get a new one I guess.

    To be honest the main thing is to be able to have Euro 2 emissions on the engine. Now way will it pass anything stricter! I think you can do this with an 'as new' engine. As the car is counted as new but only has to meet the emissions for the particular engine you use. Mind you, if I've misunderstood then I might not be able to even consider registering as new.
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    Re: New LB builder in Reading

    Yes, that's as I understand it too, that you can test an "as new" engine on the emissions standards relevant to the production date for the engine.
    Proving that date without an age related V5 maybe the tricky bit.

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    Re: New LB builder in Reading

    oooh I hadn't even considered being able to have it registered as a new car on a 17 plate for example

    I don't suppose anyone knows an IVA tester who can confirm ?

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    Re: New LB builder in Reading

    I still have the V5 with the engine number on it. The Alfa, which is no more, is listed as SORN.

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    Re: New LB builder in Reading

    Quote Originally Posted by Raj_UK View Post
    oooh I hadn't even considered being able to have it registered as a new car on a 17 plate for example

    I don't suppose anyone knows an IVA tester who can confirm ?
    That is the process my car should be going through anytime now - "new build" with a professionally refurbished 3.0 V6 Alfa engine and box.
    I'm hoping it comes out the other end with a new car 17 plate, although I believe the latest emissions / price-based tax bands won't apply

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    Re: New LB builder in Reading

    Raj, I own a ListerBell which has the Toyota 2GR-Fe engine and has a new registration through the IVA process, My registration number would be on a 16 plate but I have a private reg V66STR, I wanted V6STR but Craig has that :-). My car has 325Bhp which is very easily achievable using stOck ECU, I can confirm that the car is very Driveable with the quad VVTi and drives like a normal car until you boot it when it turns into a bit of a monster. The sound in the cockpit is incredible and the high revving V6 suits the car probably being more like the Ferrari engine than the Alfa which whilst an awesome engine in its time
    is a bit of a thumper. It's a personal opinion but you are going to spend a fortune piddling about trying to get 325-400 HP out of the Alfa engine, even using a new Toyota engine you will probably do it cheaper and you will end up with something super reliable with arm wrenching torque. I can confirm that for new registration for IVA you are allowed 1 rebuilt to as new component. If you go to IVA with receipts saying both engine and gearbox have been rebuilt then you should not get a new registration. I was very careful that my documentation said that my engine was new and the gearbox rebuilt, they are 2 separate components. End of the day it's your decision, and that's the beauty of it. My ten Penneth aim for 250-300 Hp, it's not all about power, you need to spend money on upgrades to the suspension and brakes and having it set up properly otherwise you won't be able to enjoy the power the engine does have. I have a build thread on here if you are interested.
    Rob

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