ABSOLUTLY !!! + 1+1 +1Originally Posted by john
ABSOLUTLY !!! + 1+1 +1
Real and hawk suspension isn't interchangeable. But guess Frant may have fabricated some wishbones as a one off. Any claim as to fitting is plain lying.
Btr told me hawk panels needed a lot of work to fit Perez's car.
Just got the TKC article but have yet to read it.
I am an amateur tinkerer who built a Hawk, then rebuilt bits of it then rebuilt some of those bits again. (It's the way I drive!) Previous high point of experience was changing the engine on my RS2000 with one arm in plaster and I had a fair bit of glass fibre experience from watercraft, but mainly an arrogant DIY-er who can't see why I can't do what others do.
The Hawk is a 1980s product with little development since, LB is a 21st century product. The tools, techniques and materials available to the man in the street have progressed hugely in that time too. They are what they are; beautiful and a blast to drive, made individually to our own specs. Love em all!
As a newcomer to building a 'kit car'/replica thus far I have not found anything too tricky with my Hawk Lhd Stradale. Coming from a nineteen year ownership of a Beta coupe and running a integrale as daily transport the Hawk is a joy to build. I don't feel the need to rush my build (two years in) but I'm aiming to have the car on the road in the next two years. Juggling a young family, self employment, 60 hr working weeks and not a deal of holiday is time consuming as I reckon four weeks left alone and I would have the car at least ready for the IVA. In another life maybe!
Lets be honest, real or replica is ultimately irrelevant, the concept of this car in many guises is superb and we are all lucky to have these fantastic machines, some people cant afford to run one car let alone one or several cars we in many ways don't need.
Vive la difference!
Tim.
My car is a corse, so I am really out of this discussion and I have gone out of my way to try and not replicate the original stratos in many ways, which I don't need to point out, but for those that don't know, the interior, dash front clam, engine, rear lights, wheels etc are all non original, yet one person came up to me at silverstone on Saturday and said that my car was the best of the bunch, in livery and attention to the build..... it's all down to individual perspectives........
Lets just enjoy the Stratos!
I think I understand where Rob's coming from, not because of anything said here, but what was written in the TKC article. There was a large chunk of how good the Hawk is, and another section on Accidents I Nearly Had, which I thought were a bit out of place in an article ostensibly about Lister Bell. It didn't help that it was badly written and came across as somewhat disparaging to Rob and his car, and I'd have been a bit pi$$ed off too if it'd been me.
I don't think Rob's saying the LB is better than the Hawk or vice versa - I think he just wants some kind of reaction - and he's got it
Good to see how grown up the responses are, though. No backbiting or trying to score points....what a top bunch of guys!
When I built my Allora back in the day, there was a definite "it's not as good as a Transformer" vibe going around from people who didn't know enough and/or hadn't investigated the kits properly. I remember being at a Lancia Motor Club do in Wales and getting compliments on the car, and then the question "aren't these Transformer replicas good?" or summat like that got trotted out. When I told them it was a Handmade Allora there was the sound of jaws hitting the floor, and the response was, I kid you not, "but I thought they were supposed to be shit!".....hey ho.
That sort of thing was one of the reasons I sold it - I got fed up of people telling me it wasn't supposed to be any good. The real killer was Steve Greenwood redesigning the chassis when he took over the project, and mine was suddenly...well...a bit shit
These days, Alloras are recognized as good cars in their own right, as they should be. Like I said, we're all a lot more grown-up and nicer people now, and we all know the best Stratos rep is....our own
Last edited by Normb666; 01-08-2017 at 21:44.
Well said Norm.
I didn't fear any 'meltdown', even with this thread starter.
Touché Norman, I think we are all here as we admire the Original car, concept, and team behind it, and what it achieved, I certainly am. Would have loved an original,but.
As far as unfinished LB's are concerned, there may be one going if I don't get it finished before I finish!!!!! ONWARDS AND UPWARDS.
Robin TM
And as an epilogue, it may be helpful to keep me informed of any approaches members get from the motoring/KC press so I can help manage the journalistic process with them to mitigate these issues.
Tim
Press Officer
and owner of a professionally built Transformer.....
Ian, at the moment it's HOPEFULLY a nice run in the Lakes...I thought it was great when I recce'd it, but we'll have to see what you lot think of it!! (I may well ply peeps with quantities of alcohol, take pix and then subject them to blackmail to ensure a good review)
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