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    Re: Hawk Rear Brakes

    Quote Originally Posted by Bernard View Post
    Craig............... is there anything you don't know ????.......... I mean... AC 3000ME Rear Brakes...... You need more holidays

    Luv Ya !
    ...and not only that, he had pictures....

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    Re: Hawk Rear Brakes

    Quote Originally Posted by Bernard View Post
    Craig............... is there anything you don't know ????.......... I mean... AC 3000ME Rear Brakes...... You need more holidays
    I just happen to know someone (in the Langley Mill direction) who has an AC 3000 ME in their workshop currently whilst it is undergoing an engine swap from the original motor to the V6 from a 164.
    "You can lead a horse to water, but a pencil must be lead"
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    Re: Hawk Rear Brakes

    Quote Originally Posted by Strat Fan View Post
    I just happen to know someone (in the Langley Mill direction) who has an AC 3000 ME in their workshop currently whilst it is undergoing an engine swap from the original motor to the V6 from a 164.
    One of the factory made cars actually had Alfa running gear:
    https://online.handh.co.uk/m/lot-det...g/26/lot/3635/

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    Re: Hawk Rear Brakes

    Quote Originally Posted by ProtoTipo View Post
    One of the factory made cars actually had Alfa running gear:
    https://online.handh.co.uk/m/lot-det...g/26/lot/3635/
    This history of this is what prompted the customer to head down the Alfa route. It is a tight fit however! I believe the original engine sat atop its gearbox a bit like a Mini and a Dino/308 so there was a decent amount of room in the engine bay. Trying to shoehorn an Alfa in there is a bit more interesting!!
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    Re: Hawk Rear Brakes

    If you opt for a pedal box Phil, I have a mould to make a panel which will fit the Hawk and cover and close off the hole you will have to cut to accommodate the box. It will cover either left hand drive or right hand drive pedal boxes.
    Making bracketry to hold a pedal box is pretty straightforward but covering it all up and making it look like it was always like that is more time consuming.
    Still, it's maybe more work than you want to do although as John says you can get rid of the servo if you go that route.

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    Re: Hawk Rear Brakes

    I am really pleased with the HiSpec Electronic Handbrake Calipers. I have used the spot caliper together with a separate 4 pot HiSpec Ultralite caliper. I have opted for a hydraulic handbrake in addition to the electronic caliper as the electronic button is really only for parking.
    I decided upon the spot caliper as I felt the single piston electronic option is really for front engined VW Golfs or similar cars. I have fitted a 13/16" rear master cylinder with a 5/8" front master cylinder and my brake balance bar is now around the central 50/50 position and fronts lock up just before the rears. Previously I had too much rear brake bias, not a good situation.
    I have posted some photographs in a separate thread if you are interested.
    The only problem I have is that I cannot get the handbrake warning light to work, the led on the button works but the output wire from the controller does not do anything.....

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    Re: Hawk Rear Brakes

    Quote Originally Posted by Strat Fan View Post
    This history of this is what prompted the customer to head down the Alfa route. It is a tight fit however! I believe the original engine sat atop its gearbox a bit like a Mini and a Dino/308 so there was a decent amount of room in the engine bay. Trying to shoehorn an Alfa in there is a bit more interesting!!
    Yes, I'd read that the very first one had a BMC gearbox, then AC made their own. Access to the factory Alfa engined car would be useful with this project?

    Phil,
    I know this might sound daft, but I wondered about fitting a fabricated alloy (or steel) footwell that was about 1" or 1.5" lower than the Hawk (flat) one?
    Then you could lengthen the pedal accordingly?
    I'm sure the footwells on the original car are lower, within the chassis?
    That, or re-engineer the car to fit a new pedal box. Worthwhile, but such an upheaval to do this kind of thing on a car that's already built?

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    Re: Hawk Rear Brakes

    Newer Hawk rear hub-carriers have 2 sets of caliper mounting lugs, leading and trailing, so make it easier to fabricate a seperate handbrake caliper mounting.

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    Re: Hawk Rear Brakes

    Quote Originally Posted by ProtoTipo View Post
    Phil,
    I know this might sound daft, but I wondered about fitting a fabricated alloy (or steel) footwell that was about 1" or 1.5" lower than the Hawk (flat) one?
    Then you could lengthen the pedal accordingly?
    I'm sure the footwells on the original car are lower, within the chassis?
    That, or re-engineer the car to fit a new pedal box. Worthwhile, but such an upheaval to do this kind of thing on a car that's already built?
    Using a dual servo sounds much simpler!

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    Re: Hawk Rear Brakes

    Thanks for all your suggestions chaps... I will post after the carve up !
    Cheers
    Phil

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