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    Re: new member in wales building a hawk

    Hi (again) rear hubs - use a Lancia Beta front bearing with a circlip or lockring depending on the age. The hub itself is a 5 stud one from either and Integrale or an Alfa 147 which all have the 5*98PCD pattern. The FSO bearing is the same as Fiat 131/132/Argenta and will fit the gold front hubs you've got. Note that the spindles are handed, try to buy a bearing kit that includes the locknuts and if you need the washers for the stub axle (they have a tongue that fits the groove in the spindle to stop rotation) give Gerry Hawkridge a call. I think he's got a stock left from a batch I bought & donated when I needed 2 myself.
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    Re: new member in wales building a hawk

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mayers View Post
    The hub itself is a 5 stud one from either and Integrale or an Alfa 147 which all have the 5*98PCD pattern.
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    Here's a useful thread:
    https://www.stratosec.com/Forum/show...heel-bearings?

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    Re: new member in wales building a hawk

    hello guy thank you for that very us-full, all the front components were there for the front axle except the two washers which jerry at hawk was kind enough to donate. thank you jerry ) i was hoping to post some picks of the weeks work but dont seem to see a way of doing so , maybe some one could advise ?i have all the front components assembled rear up rights in place i have sourced two day the outer cv and hub flange from walkers so that will arrive Tuesday hopefully. i have the long beta shaft with the support , but still need to source shorter one and was struggling to find wheel bearing for rear hub. hub is a cir-clip approx size 81mx37x37 but thanks to your self gut i know what im looking for now and that,s be a wee job for the weekend) many thanks i tried the link posted below but was not permitted access ? but all in all a good week i shall keep you informed and maybe pics if i can work it out lol

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    Re: new member in wales building a hawk

    Errrm. Beta shafts should be the same length. Have you got Beta Montecarlo ones? Kit uses Alfa engine and box plus the Alfa intermediate shaft.
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    Re: new member in wales building a hawk

    For the Integrale / Alfa 147 (twin spark) hub, the wheel bearing size is 72mm OD x37mm ID x37mm thick.

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    Re: new member in wales building a hawk

    I have vague recollection that very early Betas did have unequal length halfshafts, I think the centre bearing was an early mod? I stand to be corrected though.
    So if you have unequal you would need the short cross shaft and the bearing assembly and mounting as well as the half shaft to the wheel.

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    Re: new member in wales building a hawk

    Yes Peter, first series Betas had a normal length left shaft and a very long right shaft but that changed very early on to equal length ones with an intermediate shaft incorporating the engine mounts we're all familiar with. Current Hawk builders obviously don't need the Beta intermediate shaft assembly, just the outer shafts mated to the Alfa intermediate with spacer adaptor plates to bridge the gaps and cope with the difference PCD's between the Alfa drive flanges and the Beta inner CV joints.

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    Re: new member in wales building a hawk

    Makes more sense to not bother with drive shaft adaptors and just have a pair of new shafts made.

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    Re: new member in wales building a hawk

    Quote Originally Posted by jock hawk View Post
    i tried the link posted below but was not permitted access ?
    If you are logged in as a member, all parts of the forum should be visible.

    Photos need to be no more than 1000 pixels on the longest dimension, and from around 72 to 100 pixels per inch. (96?).

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