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    Re: Chairman's Rant, July 2019

    Quote Originally Posted by john View Post
    On a 300 mile journey you should be stopping for rest breaks equivalent to any necessary charging time ( CPC training) no matter what vehicle you are driving HGV or not.
    That's actually a very good point that I haven't heard articulated before

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    Re: Chairman's Rant, July 2019

    The other option which I have not heard discussed is battery swapping - stop at service station, take out flat ones and exchange for charged ones. Swap over time akin to hydrocarbon fuelling. It requires cars to be designed for mutually compatible battery styles (Think AAAs, not phone charger plugs). Going back to the days of fresh horses at the coaching inn!

    And up here the demand of lights/heating/windscreen wipers etc will give vastly reduced range compared with SoCal. We're just getting used to heated seats/windscreens/steering wheels and now we'll only be able to use them in our own street.
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    Dunno how long it'd take to swap out a battery pack, but it's still not going to be as fast as chucking 10 gallons in - you won't be able to do it yourself unless you have the strength of the Hulk, so it'll be waiting till Torchy the Battery Boy (showing my age there...) becomes available with his modified forklift to lift the old ones out and the new ones in. And that's assuming they've got a fully-charged set available, which might not be the case if it's a Bank Holiday/start of school hols and they've had lots of customers...

    Nope, still not convinced by the "electric revolution" yet. Not saying it won't get there, but it's a good way off still, I reckon.

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    That's true Norm, but the point is 'they' have to make it a viable alternative to petrol/diesel, so the cars would have to be designed for quick battery pack changes and the infrastructure to supply them invented. You pay an annual subscription to EverReady to lease a battery pack plus 200 battery changes a year or whatever, they have a network of 'filling stations' on the road network, and you just rock up and say "fill her up guv"; the Duracell rabbits whip the flat one out and slot in a full one. Likely to take 5 minutes to do and you're back on the road. An hour or two later they have that battery recharged ready to punt out again. Bugger that sit-around-while-the-charger-does-its-stuff malarkey.

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    Re: Chairman's Rant, July 2019

    Quote Originally Posted by john View Post
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    Re: Chairman's Rant, July 2019

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisCar6 View Post
    That's true Norm, but the point is 'they' have to make it a viable alternative to petrol/diesel, so the cars would have to be designed for quick battery pack changes and the infrastructure to supply them invented. You pay an annual subscription to EverReady to lease a battery pack plus 200 battery changes a year or whatever, they have a network of 'filling stations' on the road network, and you just rock up and say "fill her up guv"; the Duracell rabbits whip the flat one out and slot in a full one. Likely to take 5 minutes to do and you're back on the road. An hour or two later they have that battery recharged ready to punt out again. Bugger that sit-around-while-the-charger-does-its-stuff malarkey.
    A lot of the issue is around people's expectations. Because we are used to filling a car from empty to full in 5 mins and that can give you up to 800 miles in some cars that's what we use as the benchmark for EVs. Eventually you will have a generation of people who have only ever had EVs, if it takes 30 mins to charge then they will used to that and accept it as part of the car owning (well leasing) experience.

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    Re: Chairman's Rant, July 2019

    Quote Originally Posted by LPH_UK View Post
    A lot of the issue is around people's expectations. Because we are used to filling a car from empty to full in 5 mins and that can give you up to 800 miles in some cars that's what we use as the benchmark for EVs. Eventually you will have a generation of people who have only ever had EVs, if it takes 30 mins to charge then they will used to that and accept it as part of the car owning (well leasing) experience.
    It'll have a drastic effect on work travel. Time is money.

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    Re: Chairman's Rant, July 2019

    What us on 'ere want to know is, what effect it'll all have on prices of Stratos reps.

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    Re: Chairman's Rant, July 2019

    Quote Originally Posted by Normb666 View Post
    What us on 'ere want to know is, what effect it'll all have on prices of Stratos reps.
    What it means Norm, is that we'll be able to "charge" a fortune for them.

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    Re: Chairman's Rant, July 2019

    Well that's something "positive" anyway...an improvement on "current" values. OK, I'm off ohm....

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