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    Re: Chairman's Rant, July 2019

    Looks like this has inspired some lively debate as intended - some good points being made and opinions stated!

    One of the things I was trying to bring out was what Chris J just said - the "old order" of Strat enthusiasts is being replaced, or maybe augmented, by a different type of person entirely. It's the sort of person who's into cars, has realised the Stratos is a classic and wants a piece of it, and also sees it as a bit of an "investment" in an exotic car at a cheap price point (compare to values of classics such as E types, Big Healeys, originals, etc.) They don't know anything about the kits themselves and all they see is the shiny Stratos shape, and assume they're all pretty much the same underneath. This is borne out be the similar prices fetched by the two cars I used as examples - Nick's immaculate, low-mileage, beautifully built LB and the yellow THT Hawk which was based on lots of used parts and, I believe, had a 164 12v motor? To us on here there should be an obvious price disparity, and normally there would be - I wasn't trying to say all Strat reps are now worth mid-50k's! But now you've got this new "breed" of buyers appearing, not having done their research, and just hand over the loot.
    I personally find it hard to believe that anyone would enter a market like "ours" without doing some research, maybe coming on here, asking questions, etc. But hey, it's their money, their decision, and caveat emptor...

    I still believe us on here, though, are a bit behind the curve regarding prices. The world's changed for cars that are "interesting" and "different". As Jim (renmure) said, there's a lot out there with no interest in building a car, and they want their desires satisfied NOW (maybe a bit of the moneyed individual who's used to getting their own way instantly, going on there?) - they'd probably even consider a yellow car with blue wheels :-P

    If LB does at some point go turnkey-only, then I assume they'll have some sort of base spec and a price for that car, with a further list of priced options. That'll help stablise uncertainty over prices to some extent, if you know exactly what a new one costs, but that "I want it now!" will still inflate used prices if the waiting list for new is long... interesting times, methinks, but let's not worry too much, eh, cos "what it's worth" is only really important a) if you're buying one, and b) if you're selling yours...till then it's an ace, fun car that takes yonks to get from A to B cos you're too busy fighting off peeps with smartphones taking pics

    P.S. who're these "Maglioli" and "Piano" guys???? (I jest, honest!)
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    Re: Chairman's Rant, July 2019

    By the way, Robin - we've beaten 836 users today - gone up to 1400-odd this morning...not bad for a club with only 200-odd members! I suspect there's a faulty redirect from a popular porn site somewhere

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    Re: Chairman's Rant, July 2019

    Quote Originally Posted by Normb666 View Post
    By the way, Robin - we've beaten 836 users today - gone up to 1400-odd this morning...not bad for a club with only 200-odd members! I suspect there's a faulty redirect from a popular porn site somewhere
    Perhaps it could be something to do with phrase that has appeared in the thread (L of L) when Googled!!!!! Or it could be that Norm is trending?

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    Never thought I’d say it,......but even as one of the Oldskool, I would still have to think twice if someone with £50k+ burning a hole in their pocket wanted my Hawk now. As much I have loved (and still do love) and constantly keep it 100% reliable and used as it should be. Life moves on, there’s a lot you can do with that sort of money and still have change for something to have fun in/on/pilot.
    ..Dark thoughts! But you never know........Really didn’t think I’d ever say that!

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    Re: Chairman's Rant, July 2019

    All good stuff, makes me smile to think that the value of my car when I finally finish it (Paintshop booked for the start of Autumn now!) will approach the value of a proper one when I started to build it over 30 years ago!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stableblock View Post
    All good stuff, makes me smile to think that the value of my car when I finally finish it (Paintshop booked for the start of Autumn now!) will approach the value of a proper one when I started to build it over 30 years ago!!
    Oooh....exciting stuff Peter. Looking forward to seeing that soon then. ;-)

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    Re: Chairman's Rant, July 2019

    yes should just be bolt the bits back on after that, cant possibly take another 30 years!

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    Re: Chairman's Rant, July 2019

    Quote Originally Posted by Sando View Post
    Never thought I’d say it,......but even as one of the Oldskool, I would still have to think twice if someone with £50k+ burning a hole in their pocket wanted my Hawk now. As much I have loved (and still do love) and constantly keep it 100% reliable and used as it should be. Life moves on, there’s a lot you can do with that sort of money and still have change for something to have fun in/on/pilot.
    ..Dark thoughts! But you never know........Really didn’t think I’d ever say that!
    Exactly. If I ever do get a Stratos on the road again, and the values are comparable to now, then I would have to immediately sell it. At £25k, I'd keep it, £40k to £50k, and it's goodbye Stratos.

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    Re: Chairman's Rant, July 2019

    Quote Originally Posted by ProtoTipo View Post
    Exactly. If I ever do get a Stratos on the road again, and the values are comparable to now, then I would have to immediately sell it. At £25k, I'd keep it, £40k to £50k, and it's goodbye Stratos.
    Likewise - Then again as mine is a total bitsa kit being built by a "weirdo in a shabby shed" or more often outside a shabby shed - Getting it finished asap and looking out for a wannabee Stratosser with more money than sense seems like a reet good plan.

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    Re: Chairman's Rant, July 2019

    They're deffo out there....along along with the truth, if you believe, apparently.

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