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    Re: Pirelli Hawk for sale in Andorra

    I can see what you're saying Norm, it does say replica, but there are some Mk2 Escorts out there which are replicas of works cars but we're never built at Boreham. Most were at least built originally by Ford. I guess it depends on what you mean by replica.
    I'm with Phil. Sure caveat emptor applies and for sure you would have to be one sandwich short of a picnic to be buying this and actually thinking you are getting an original. But I find it a bit sordid and deplorable is a good word for it. Sounds like it might not be the current owner who gave it the 1972 identity though but it shouldn't be maintained.

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    Re: Pirelli Hawk for sale in Andorra

    Fully agreed with all your comments!

    The 1972 registration date was certainly obtained by the previous owner with a Lancia donor car as Fulvia or 2000 HF and changed the model for a Stratos with some magic wand in the registration office!
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    Re: Pirelli Hawk for sale in Andorra

    You couldn't buy a production run Stratos in 1972.

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    Re: Pirelli Hawk for sale in Andorra

    I see, Frederic, so a previous owner could have modified an existing registration. Naughty!

    Chris, correct, no such thing as a '72 Stratos. But the guy in the registration office wouldn't know that....it's just an old car.

    The thing is, though, that the advert contains no fibs. It's a 1972 Stratos, and a replica, with the features mentioned. The only thing causing jaws to drop is the price - if it'd been E45k, and not 245, it'd only have warranted a brief comment.
    John, I understand what you're saying about differences in the meaning of "replica" - a regular production version modified to emulate a specific rally car, or a kit-car replica. But I think in this case, it'd be taken to be the latter given how few original cars were made, and the current market for Stratos reps. Sooooo.....is the price intended to reflect the fact that it's registered as a genuine Stratos? Still seems far too steep, especially given the chances of being caught in a dodgy act and the consequences of that.
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    Re: Pirelli Hawk for sale in Andorra

    I wonder what price they'd be asking if it was fitted with this:

    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1969-74-F...b720%7Ciid%3A1

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    Re: Pirelli Hawk for sale in Andorra

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mayers View Post
    I wonder what price they'd be asking if it was fitted with this:

    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1969-74-F...b720%7Ciid%3A1

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    Its not a Lancia mill.....

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    Re: Pirelli Hawk for sale in Andorra

    Has the trolley got a V5?

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    Re: Pirelli Hawk for sale in Andorra

    Chris, I bet the trolley's not got a V5, but it could well be adapted from an old WW2 V1 or V2 launch trolley. Or maybe not.

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    Re: Pirelli Hawk for sale in Andorra

    Quote Originally Posted by Normb666 View Post
    Chris, I bet the trolley's not got a V5, but it could well be adapted from an old WW2 V1 or V2 launch trolley. Or maybe not.
    It is part of an actual Dino chassis.
    'Just wonder where the rest went?

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    Re: Pirelli Hawk for sale in Andorra

    The story in the advert is that this was removed from a low mileage crashed Dino which was damaged in Germany. So likely they just cut the engine out complete with engine mounts and chassis rails then put some useful casters on. German practicality in action. So I guess we have to infer the rest of the car got binned. Back in the day when V5's were not as valuable as they seem today.

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