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    Pirelli Hawk for sale in Andorra

    This Hawk recently resprayed with a nice Pirelli livery is for sale with an extra-big price in Andorra
    This car was used in several historic rallies in Spain and Portugal these latest years
    The car has carbon Kevlar panels but a non prepared 2.5 Alfa engine

    I have no link with the seller but I have seen the car in one rally entered

    https://www.classiccarsandorra.com/lancia-stratos
    Last edited by Stratie.fr; 25-01-2020 at 20:15.

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    Re: Pirelli Hawk for sale in Andorra

    B------ -ell !!! That's e...l...a...s...t...ic thinking I suspect.
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    Re: Pirelli Hawk for sale in Andorra

    Year of manufacture 1972.
    I don't think so......
    'Mistakes' like this in advertising happen too often and beg the question, "Is it deliberately misleading?"

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    Re: Pirelli Hawk for sale in Andorra

    Caveat Emptor applies methinks.

    Would anyone buying a Stratos not realise this is a replica? I doubt it.

    Anyone wanting a "1978" (thank you SVA Amnesty) LHD Pirelli liveried car is welcome to offer me €240,000 for it. And I think I'd have to consider that quite seriously...

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    Re: Pirelli Hawk for sale in Andorra

    To be fair, the advert does say it's a replica, and with my Devil's Advocate hat on, it could be that the thinking is that it's still a lot cheaper than a genuine car. But with my Get Real hat on, you'd wonder why anyone would pay that price when you could build your own new one for, what, a third of the asking price?
    As I see it, a car's value is increased due to one, or a combination of, several factors - usually, its desirability, restricted availability and the fact that they aren't made any more. So the Real McCoy is currently sitting in the stratosphere (appropriately), value-wise, due to a combination of all three. A Hawk or a LB, however, can still be bought new (unless something's changed lately), and so values for them must be anchored (roughly) by the price of a new, turn-key car, e.g. if a car of a given spec would cost 75k built, a good used one would be about the same, but maybe somewhat more if availability issues (e.g. long waiting list) applied and people didn't want to wait.
    If, however, both companies decided to jack in the Stratos rep thing and get into something a bit less stressful , then replica values could also rocket as the yardstick of new car availability/price would disappear.

    So the point I'm trying to make (finally!) is that, although I've argued several times that our cars' values are rising in line with their respectability and quality, 245K Euros is, er, a tad over the top...well, at the moment, anyway
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    Re: Pirelli Hawk for sale in Andorra

    MANUFACTURE YEAR 1972
    Motor Alfa Romeo 2.500 cc - V6 192 Hp
    Preparation for competition :


    • 6 point Roll Cage
    • Backets ( homologation new )
    • Harnesses ( homologation new )
    • Automatic Homologated Extinguishers
    • Four additional headlights

    PRICE OF SALE 245.000 WoW!!!!!!!

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    Re: Pirelli Hawk for sale in Andorra

    John It's not a mistake...this car was registered in France as a Lancia Stratos 1972!! And sold in auction a few time after...I think you know how and where!

    Guy with a EU registration you surely could as yours is a nicer car and a well dated one!
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    Re: Pirelli Hawk for sale in Andorra

    Oh right Frederic, I see.
    No surprise there then.....

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    Re: Pirelli Hawk for sale in Andorra

    Surely somebody somewhere is accountable for this deception ???..... or is it just me being a tw8t ?

    I really do find this deplorable (not just sour grapes either !)

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    Re: Pirelli Hawk for sale in Andorra

    No Phil, discovering that someone's successfully managed to register it as a 72 Stratos makes me feel quite uncomfortable. I suppose, if it couldn't be registered as a Hawk or whatever it really is, that might have been the only way round it? But then, I don't know much about registering replicas in France. And why 1972? Why not a year between 74 and 78?? But as I said earlier, it does actually say "replica" in the advert, so you'd hope a potential customer would do some research first, especially when that amount of cash is involved.

    As for you being a tw8t....well, er....
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