Pirelli Hawk for Sale

**Willtord** · 10-06-2021, 05:53

Guy, it won't need a year because "BE IN NO DOUBT THIS CAR IS A TRUE BARGAIN AND WONT BE AROUND FOR LONG WILL BE SNAPPED UP VERY QUICKLY BECAUSE OF ITS ABSOLUTE RARETY..!!!"

Been for sale for at least 4 months that I'm aware of. I wonder how far we can stretch the insinuation of the phrase "WONT BE AROUND FOR LONG"? - Won't be around for looonnng?

Also, an interesting fact is that Won’t is the correct way to contract will not. Wont is a type of behaviour that is specific to a person. It’s also the wrong way to spell won’t. It's a rarety that people know the definition of the word wont. Sorry, I meant to say rarity. :P

Edit: I've just read what I've typed and thought "stop being a cock", but it's early, and I haven't woken up properly yet. To quote my girlfriend; "sometimes you're a real pain until you've had a coffee!".

Just off to make a coffee. . .

**john** · 10-06-2021, 10:42

All fair comment.
His problem now is that to anyone actually knowing anything about Stratos and replicas, as most serious buyers surely do, he has shot his credibility to pieces, leaving him the only option of selling to somebody impulse buying.

**ProtoTipo** · 10-06-2021, 11:40

Just gone 4 months now, since the first post of this thread.

**Willtord** · 12-06-2021, 08:49

Unfortunately I cant help feeling that it's had other repercussions, too. I was quoted £90k yesterday, for a factory built STR. I do love the shape of the Stratos, but 90K puts it firmly in competition with a Brand New Porsche Cayman/Boxster 4.0L GTS, or numerous second owner convertible Lamborghinis and Ferraris and their associated development, heritage, parts and servicing networks.

**Strat Fan** · 12-06-2021, 10:02

Originally Posted by Willtord

Unfortunately I cant help feeling that it's had other repercussions, too. I was quoted £90k yesterday, for a factory built STR. I do love the shape of the Stratos, but 90K puts it firmly in competition with a Brand New Porsche Cayman/Boxster 4.0L GTS, or numerous second owner convertible Lamborghinis and Ferraris and their associated development, heritage, parts and servicing networks.

The only correlation with the pricing of the eBay car and an LB is that the eBay seller contacted LB anonymously 4 months ago as a potential buyer to ask what the cost of a factory built car was, he then bumped his eBay listing price from £69,995 to £109,995.
There are no repercussions whatsoever to the cost of a turn key LB in light of the (fluctuating) advertised price eBay car.
The pricing for a turn key LB is quite simply based on the component cost, a build labour cost and then a profit margin which then makes it viable to keep a business with overheads going in this day and age.
If you compare the spec of a factory LB with car being offered on eBay currently then you would realise there is actually a significant difference in component/engine spec and therefore the component cost alone of the two cars is vastly different.
I fully agree that you can buy a lot of sports car for comparable money but that really is to miss the point. As one of the forum's old guard used to say "people buy a Stratos because they want something which looks like a Stratos".
You cannot buy that look in any other car and it therefore becomes what it is & the decision is one to be made by the customer at their own discretion.

**westonTB** · 12-06-2021, 10:25

Correct, if you want a Stratos then really only a Stratos will scratch that itch, nothing else is the 'same', similar yes in engine placement etc but not a Stratos, drove my mates McLaren 570 the other year then Gordon took me out in his LB... the McLaren was dull in every way by comparison.

Although my Hawk is not yet IVA'd , when I finish 'testing' it I simply don't want to get out or turn it off! Some OEM's can struggle to (pardon the pun) replicate this.

**ProtoTipo** · 12-06-2021, 10:42

Originally Posted by Strat Fan

I fully agree that you can buy a lot of sports car for comparable money but that really is to miss the point.

As much as I like Stratos replicas, once they've got to the stage of being valued £10k above Ferrari 308s, I'm always going to choose a 308.
There is a limit.

**Stratos Fear** · 12-06-2021, 10:53

As Craig said - it's a matter of personal choice. The fact that LB has a long waiting list speaks volumes. Now that I'm starting to "test" my car I'm beginning to get a feel for what makes these cars so special - apart from the heritage and aesthetics (as if that wasn't enough !)

**Strat Fan** · 12-06-2021, 10:54

Looking at eBay the listing for the Hawk has currently ended and the item is no longer available.

**Strat Fan** · 12-06-2021, 11:05

Originally Posted by ProtoTipo

As much as I like Stratos replicas, once they've got to the stage of being valued £10k above Ferrari 308s, I'm always going to choose a 308.
There is a limit.

I think that is exactly the point,
It is at the buyers discretion as to what amount of money they wish to spend on the car of their choosing.
Everyone will have a limit as to what they would want to spend to own such a car and that is their choice.
If a buyer does not think a car is worth what it is advertised/for sale at then quite simply they don't buy it.