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    Re: Pirelli Hawk for Sale

    The gear change quadrant is a Ferrari one. Not sure if it's 250GTO but if I saw picture of it I could compare it to the mental picture I have from 20 minutes as a passenger at Aintree eace circuit back in 1995 in Steve Pilkington's 1963 250 GTO...

    Name dropping? Moi?

    Believe YBL2T is still registered as a Lancia Beta. It may need an IVA test if an MOT tester gets picky?

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    Re: Pirelli Hawk for Sale

    As seen at a Garage Day, 9 years ago. NINE YEARS?!!
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    Re: Pirelli Hawk for Sale

    9 years, but none of you look a day older than...ummm.... old people

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    Nehe Norm, Richard has the neck and the hair cut of an 18 year old, and the s-d still looks like that!!!! 9 Years ago he probably was 18.

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    I don't get it, every kit car with incorrect v5 has people jumping up and down about it being incorrect. My car has a lancia beta v5, purely because that's the donors.

    Why is this one different, I know thre was an amnesty about incorrect registrations, but as stated before, there's no proof this has ever had sva or iva.

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    Re: Pirelli Hawk for Sale

    Quote Originally Posted by colleyv12 View Post
    I don't get it, every kit car with incorrect v5 has people jumping up and down about it being incorrect. My car has a lancia beta v5, purely because that's the donors.

    Why is this one different,
    I don't think it is different Steve. We dont know if it says Beta on the V5 do we?
    The advertiser states it says Lancia on the V5. That's not strictly true is it? As we know it was common for kit cars to end up with the same ID as the donor. Others ( my Allora certainly) states Allora on the V5.
    The amnesty intention was to make sure cars were correctly described without having to go through test.
    Doesn't look like this one was corrected.
    But if its going to end up abroad it doesn't really matter.
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    Re: Pirelli Hawk for Sale

    Robin, the neck Richard has is made of brass

    Steve, I don't understand that either. It's gone all this time registered as it is so what's the problem? Was actually speaking to Richard today and he told me there's some sort of official letter with the car that confirms it's registered correctly... so I guess all those worries are moot in this case! Anyway, what're the chances of any policeman or other official person knowing what a Lancia Beta looks like, and something Stratos-shaped ain't it?

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    That's true Norm. It shouldn't actually matter if it was staying in the UK either. Let's face it, when you take a Stratos rep in for MOT the guys in the station are more interested in the car than the description on their screen.
    I think you'd have to encounter a right jobsworth for it to be raised as an issue.
    As the cars are also usually insured by specialists then az long as you tell them you are insuring a Stratos replica then it shouldn't be an issue.
    One caveat on that though, if you have a big claim and the underwriters get involved, if the car is clearly not described correctlyon the V5, then it might be an issue.

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    Re: Pirelli Hawk for Sale

    The potential issue for the car is that it may not be correctly registered. My car was "incorrectly registered" and I put it through the amnesty back in the day and managed to retain the age related plate and date of first registration. The description on the logbook changed from Lancia Beta Coupe to Hawk HF3000.
    This car has continuous history from the 1980's in it's current form, carries the correct (donor) chassis number but didn't go through the amnesty and hasn't been through the SVA/IVA test. As such there is a risk to any prospective owner of a refusal of an MOT test (because it's not a Lancia Beta) but there is also a risk as the registration document doesn't disclose the correct engine number. So what's the result of any refusal? I suspect loss of the entitlement to the current registration and need to be presented for an IVA test in a form that it'll pass and will almost certainly end up with a "Q" plate. This might restrict it's saleability outside the UK depending on it's declared date of first registration? This is the worst case scenario I see. Which rarely comes to pass but for a sale outside the Uk with the need to satisfy local registration requirements I can't comment on. Hence Caveat Emptor!
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    Re: Pirelli Hawk for Sale

    Caveat Emptor indeed, but that's true when buying any car that's been put together by some unknown person

    I have great faith in the general inertia and uselessness of government bodies, staffed as they are by underpaid, overworked and unmotivated peeps. So stuff such as what it's called on the V5 isn't that big a deal for me, so long as the chassis and engine numbers match. And a V5 is all about uniquely identifying a particular car, so it's Job Done. I do get that others might be worried about these things, but being at the age that I am, I've got bigger fish to fry (if I was any good at cooking, anyway) and my time seems to be mainly occupied by doing this Internet stuff and generally doing enjoyable things as far as poss, which as a pensioner is as it should be

    That's not to say you shouldn't go into these purchases with your eyes closed, but y'know....keep a sense of perspective!
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