Pirelli Hawk for Sale

**john** · 14-03-2021, 13:29

I see it's now described as a 99.9% replica.
So a steel monocoque and Dino engine and transmission clearly only adds 0.1% value......

**Normb666** · 14-03-2021, 14:41

That's always the 0.1% you can't afford

I love the way it's "not the usual put together amateur kit" (dunno what's wrong with saying "amateur assembled", or even "enthusiast built", but never mind). Well if it's not one of those, and then looking at the standard of builds on here, it must be bloody awful! Still, facetiousness aside, I'm fascinated to see how low the asking price will get. It'd probably be a really nice car for someone, if advertised correctly and at a reasonable price.

**john** · 14-03-2021, 17:38

Yes Norm, given that he thinks that the 'norm' ( no pun intended) is amateurish, then he clearly has not done the research he claims he has. Its actually insulting.

**Normb666** · 14-03-2021, 19:49

I can understand he wants to make out it's well built - in fact Richard has already told me it was - but it's the expression "...the usual..." that annoys me. He's either an ignorant arrogant git, or he's not thought through what he's saying. Or maybe even both.
I don't know who "Stratos Guru Graham Bates" is - assume he's not a SEC member or he'd have interjected by now, surely?

**john** · 14-03-2021, 21:37

" This is a well built car, clearly constructed by someone who knows what they are doing."
There, that should cover it. Don't see the need to cast aspersions at anybody elses efforts.
Unless of course the whole of his research involved watching an old episode of Top Gear......

**ProtoTipo** · 15-03-2021, 09:31

Originally Posted by Normb666

I don't know who "Stratos Guru Graham Bates" is - assume he's not a SEC member or he'd have interjected by now, surely?

Norm,
Graham Bates (or 'Grumpy' as he's oft referred to) was quite the legend in the Stratos Replica Club.
He designed and made a lot of bespoke parts for the Transformer kit and the 'Saturday Club' revolved around him.
The immaculate ex Terry Bunn Hawk HF I first owned, had quite a few parts that Graham made, including panel catches, alloy boot lid etc.
If you look back at earlier club newsletters, his influence is fairly obvious. This is the period when Denys Jones' Pirelli car was built.
It's highly unlikely that Graham would contribute to any on-line forum. I doubt he'd care.

**Bernard** · 15-03-2021, 19:41

He's either an ignorant arrogant git, .... You have got it completely wrong Norm !!!....... you forgot the word GREEDY !

**jbspot** · 11-04-2021, 06:42

I am looking for a 2006 or earlier car preferably with LHD to import to Canada. There are few for sale it seems but I have looked at this Hawk and have read all of the banter concerning it. Am I correct in staying away from this particular example no matter what the asking price or does it become attractive at a certain price point? For me the drivetrain is the least of my worries: it is getting it registered here that I am leery about. Any and all advice appreciated.