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    Re: Stoneleigh and Newark Shows 2022

    I have always viewed my Strat as a “Classic Kit Car”, in fact when I was putting it together, if anybody asked what I was building back in 2015-19, I always described it as a ‘Specialist Kit Car’, not the type of Kit Car ordinarily perceived by the general public. I do feel and sympathise with the current and future customers who want to join with us, the long lead time that has developed because of circumstances and the popularity of our ‘marque’ must create real heartache. I personally am so glad I discovered Lydia and Craig when I did back in 2014.

    With regard to Show’s at which kit car producers could display their products, is there a Kit Car Producers Association that could do it’s own thing at venue which would be more economic?, however I do think that Normans suggestion of a section of the Classic Car show with the foot fall that’s there and the attendant facilities has merit and is worth considering.
    "Why make it easy when you can struggle"

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    I don't know what the cost would be of a manufacturer taking a stand. I remember Stuart Gross having one at the "regular" NEC Motor Show to display the Allora back in the day, and I said to him it must have cost a bomb. Well it did - £2k back in 1987... I'd hope a club stand at the Classic Show would be less then that! In fact it crossed my mind to have a club stand at the NEC Classic a couple of years ago, but it seems that was tried some while back, and I was told it was a long weekend for those on the stand with little in the way of reward, either personally or for the club. Having said that, things have moved on substantially since then, and my gut feeling is that a SEC presence with a few cars on the stand could be a showstopper these days. But then again, why would anyone want to join a club for cars you can't actually buy?? (or not easily.)

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    Re: Stoneleigh and Newark Shows 2022

    I suppose the value for money calculation has to include what I get out of it..and for me, that's almost nothing these days. I'm not looking at new projects, nor for parts for a current one, and as a misanthrope, it's kind of anathema going to any sort of gathering anyway......it mostly serves as a thin reason to go for a drive, so having to pay for the privilege, just feels a bit poor value for me. YMMV of course!

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    Re: Stoneleigh and Newark Shows 2022

    Quote Originally Posted by NoCorseChris View Post
    as a misanthrope
    Word of the week. I'm going to try to fit that into conversation over the next few days and see who looks puzzled

    As for shows, I guess there's not much point in a manufacturer going to a show where the aim is to sell cars or take orders for cars if, for whatever reason, they can do neither or have enough orders already. I've always thought the Owners Club displays at these events did a great job of promoting the manufacturers and maintaining brand awareness anyhow so even that's already covered.

    Ultima aren't perhaps the best example because in some ways the actual car itself isn't as great as the hype that goes with it but they are a pretty good example of moving with the times. When I was first looking at getting an Ultima everything was based around Stoneleigh as the centre of the kit-car world. Now it's the Goodwood FoS and Silverstone Classic mixing in the company of folk who might splash out £140k as an impulse purchase and get the matching watch (yes, there is a limited edition matching Ultima watch for both the Evo and RS models) and I'd not be surprised if Stratos replica manufacturers gravitated in that direction as well. These new metal Hawk cars must be up there. Ultima don't bother with Stoneleigh now but they do cover the cost of the Owners Club tent and supply a stash of soft drinks and snacks.

    I'd actually never given any thought that a reason for going to any show was to encourage other folk to join the SEC. I'm maybe even more antisocial that I thought. I saw it more as a good excuse for a bit of a road trip to nosey at other members cars but also to be supportive to the manufacturers and help them sell their wares. For that reason I'd rather sign up for Goodwood / Silverstone / Classic etc rather than Stoneleigh..... just to stay away from blokes in sheds (joking!!)

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    Re: Stoneleigh and Newark Shows 2022

    Value for money....well, a few quid for petrol and a fiver to get in, and you get to mooch round the halls to see what wacky concoctions are emerging into the light of day this year, then wander wide-eyed round the club stands outside and go from horrified to awestruck in the space of a few seconds. Several times too. Sounds like a bargain to me!

    Jim, you're right, Strat reps are indeed gravitating up the marketing and social pole, but they're still kit cars so they've not shaken off Stoneleigh and Newark yet. But no-one seeing an LB or Hawk stand at Goodwood etc. would be horrified these days, like they might have been 10 years ago. Interesting to hear that Ultima cover the club tent costs and chuck in nibbles etc....Craig, Gerry, are you listening?? (just kidding.)

    One of the reasons for a club stand is indeed to try and entrap new members, by showing those who're unaware that we exist and encourage peeps to join up - we're only a small outfit with around 200 members at any one time. Remember we're an ENTHUSIASTS club, not an OWNERS club, so having a Strat isn't a condition of joining. Of course it's great to see other peeps' cars as well (see above) but Stoneleigh and Goodwood/Silverstone are very different animals, aiming at very different audiences.

    No arguments over your social status tho

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    Re: Stoneleigh and Newark Shows 2022

    Quote Originally Posted by Stratos Fear View Post
    Please note the Stoneleigh National Kitcar Show is scheduled for Sunday 1st May and Monday 2nd May this year (Spring Bank Hol)

    I understand the Sunday will be the day for the AGM - but I'm sure Norm will confirm the details.

    The one-day entry fee this year will be £5 for drivers of kitcars and £15 for passengers (unless under 16 in which case free). If camping the fee incl. entry on both days will be £15 for kitcar drivers and £25 for passengers.

    I am hoping (and expecting) to get our usual pitch in Block 51A

    There will also be a Newark Show on 23rd and 24th July - fee £10 in advance £13 on the day - and free entry for kitcar drivers. More details to follow

    Peter
    Hi Peter do we need to book in advance or pay on the day I do have a kit car (not stratos) but working on that!
    cheers martin

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    Re: Stoneleigh and Newark Shows 2022

    Hi Martin - see PM - but the answer to your Q. is you can pay at the gate - which is what I have done for many years although might be cheaper to book in advance. This is an important show for the kit car industry although in the last few years has been smaller than formerly. It's a good opportunity to meet and talk to Club members and look at some of the cars so it would be good to see you on either of the two days - although as the AGM is on the Sunday this is probably when more members will attend. See you there!

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    Re: Stoneleigh and Newark Shows 2022

    If anyone is attending Newark in their Stratos, which day(s) are you planning to be there please ? No need to answer that Guy, I can guess !


    I'm hoping to have a good look at some cars while trying to string together some sensible questions instead of just drooling...

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    Re: Stoneleigh and Newark Shows 2022

    Is there going to be a club stand / plot at Newark next weekend ?

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    Re: Stoneleigh and Newark Shows 2022

    No, we've not taken a stand as we weren't sure it was going to be happening (plus, we never heard anything directly from the organisers). So I dunno if anyone will be there....it was a low turnout at Stoneleigh, about 25 - 30 people if I remember correctly, and that only cos we were holding the AGM on the Saturday. On the Sunday we seemed to be represented by various bits of tumbleweed...

    Your best bet for seeing a few cars together is probably going to be Silverstone Classic on the August Bank Hol, although it's a bit pricey if that was all you were going for!

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