Stoneleigh and Newark Shows 2022

[hollytree]

Let's keep it as it is.
Keep the value up.
I've got two of 'em!

Get NapierSports going again
Nooooooooooo!
I've got one of 'em!

[Normb666]

The current situation is like standing on shifting sand. No-one really knows what'll happen next or where the path forward is. Everyone is simply trying to "make it work" and hoping things will become clearer at some point. Craig's example of the loom issue will be just one of a whole host of things. I sincerely hope the shows continue but as said earlier, it's a bit like a "classic kit car" display on the club stands and I think the traditional kit car builder is dying out. Lots of customers these days are monied and expect a high-quality product, and I can't see them (or at least, not many) heading off to a trad kit car show. If Grosvenor decide they can't make it work, then maybe the future will be for kit car companies to take space at the major car gatherings over the summer - Goodwood, Silverstone, NEC Classic Show maybe, that kind of thing. Probably expensive though, and it'll be passed on to customers one way or t'other.
Meanwhile, if you've got a desirable car (e.g. Strat rep of any sort), right now you're quids in. Look after it and you can't lose.

[Stratie.fr]

This actual situation is quite worrying and it’s a pity to know all this troubles!!

Hopefully it’s going better in a near future and with Brexit more Covid pandemic Kitcar shows and almost kitcar industry won’t dying!!

For sure if you are lucky enough to got a Strat rep or a kit in order keep them for a long time…it’s probably better than money in the bank!!!

[Longtimefan]

I have always viewed my Strat as a “Classic Kit Car”, in fact when I was putting it together, if anybody asked what I was building back in 2015-19, I always described it as a ‘Specialist Kit Car’, not the type of Kit Car ordinarily perceived by the general public. I do feel and sympathise with the current and future customers who want to join with us, the long lead time that has developed because of circumstances and the popularity of our ‘marque’ must create real heartache. I personally am so glad I discovered Lydia and Craig when I did back in 2014.

With regard to Show’s at which kit car producers could display their products, is there a Kit Car Producers Association that could do it’s own thing at venue which would be more economic?, however I do think that Normans suggestion of a section of the Classic Car show with the foot fall that’s there and the attendant facilities has merit and is worth considering.

[Normb666]

I don't know what the cost would be of a manufacturer taking a stand. I remember Stuart Gross having one at the "regular" NEC Motor Show to display the Allora back in the day, and I said to him it must have cost a bomb. Well it did - £2k back in 1987... I'd hope a club stand at the Classic Show would be less then that! In fact it crossed my mind to have a club stand at the NEC Classic a couple of years ago, but it seems that was tried some while back, and I was told it was a long weekend for those on the stand with little in the way of reward, either personally or for the club. Having said that, things have moved on substantially since then, and my gut feeling is that a SEC presence with a few cars on the stand could be a showstopper these days. But then again, why would anyone want to join a club for cars you can't actually buy?? (or not easily.)

[NoCorseChris]

I suppose the value for money calculation has to include what I get out of it..and for me, that's almost nothing these days. I'm not looking at new projects, nor for parts for a current one, and as a misanthrope, it's kind of anathema going to any sort of gathering anyway......it mostly serves as a thin reason to go for a drive, so having to pay for the privilege, just feels a bit poor value for me. YMMV of course!

[renmure]

as a misanthrope

Word of the week. I'm going to try to fit that into conversation over the next few days and see who looks puzzled

As for shows, I guess there's not much point in a manufacturer going to a show where the aim is to sell cars or take orders for cars if, for whatever reason, they can do neither or have enough orders already. I've always thought the Owners Club displays at these events did a great job of promoting the manufacturers and maintaining brand awareness anyhow so even that's already covered.

Ultima aren't perhaps the best example because in some ways the actual car itself isn't as great as the hype that goes with it but they are a pretty good example of moving with the times. When I was first looking at getting an Ultima everything was based around Stoneleigh as the centre of the kit-car world. Now it's the Goodwood FoS and Silverstone Classic mixing in the company of folk who might splash out £140k as an impulse purchase and get the matching watch (yes, there is a limited edition matching Ultima watch for both the Evo and RS models) and I'd not be surprised if Stratos replica manufacturers gravitated in that direction as well. These new metal Hawk cars must be up there. Ultima don't bother with Stoneleigh now but they do cover the cost of the Owners Club tent and supply a stash of soft drinks and snacks.

I'd actually never given any thought that a reason for going to any show was to encourage other folk to join the SEC. I'm maybe even more antisocial that I thought. I saw it more as a good excuse for a bit of a road trip to nosey at other members cars but also to be supportive to the manufacturers and help them sell their wares. For that reason I'd rather sign up for Goodwood / Silverstone / Classic etc rather than Stoneleigh..... just to stay away from blokes in sheds (joking!!)