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    Re: Allora corse hawk LB

    All types of Stratos replica have the potential to be finished to a high standard.
    Given how few come up for sale, you'd probably have to grab whatever came up for sale first. In any case, you need lots of patience.

    In the last couple of years, these cars and kits have come up for sale:
    May 2019 - Lister Bell STR, finished car £54,000 (I think that was the asking price, and the goal posts on completed and registered cars have probably moved since?)
    September 2020 - Transformer (Hawk) HF registered properly, but needed finishing and painting £19,099
    June 2021 - Litton Corse, asking £23,000

    Have there been any more recently?

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    Re: Allora corse hawk LB

    Quote Originally Posted by ProtoTipo View Post
    Have there been any more recently?
    Shades - a Transformer HF3000 - is currently for sale in France for €95,000. Plus side is that it's EU registered, downside it's RHD in a LHD market.

    Frederic has bought and sold a few over the last couple of years? That information is his business so if he wants to disclose the prices paid I'd let him do so.

    Phil Dolby has sold a couple of cars, Chris & Jane Smiths has gone to France too. I'm sure there are others.

    I've been offered what I would have previously considered silly money for my car with one particularly insistent person at Race Retro returning to the stand several times to see if I'd changed my mind. However I'm still of the opinion that it will only be for sale when I'm no longer fit to drive it. Being LHD/properly registered/over 30 years old may account for the offers.

    The market continues to change I think. With demand out stripping supply by a fair margin anyone willing to sell does so in the knowledge that they can't replace their car like for like very easily. The value of these cars is also dependant on the buyers ability to get them legally registered in their country of choice otherwise it's just something to use on track days or stare at in the living room. That's where we all keep them isn't it? Or is that what we call the Garage these days?

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    Re: Allora corse hawk LB

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mayers View Post

    Frederic has bought and sold a few over the last couple of years? That information is his business so if he wants to disclose the prices paid I'd let him do so.
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    The Corse S has been sold in 2017 around £40k (after LHD conversion and restoration in Alitalia gr 4)
    The blue chardonnet Hawk was sold in 2020 around £90k (after LHD conversion rally prep with a spare engine NOS…)
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    Re: Allora corse hawk LB

    Can't remember the date but think it was mid-2020 - Gordon Caro's immaculate ListerBell, 3.0 Alfa power, 2k miles, asking a lot more than £54K, sold in next to no time. Told him it was too cheap... prices will be up since then, due to currently-closed order book. Only way to get one is to buy used!

    Guy, yours will be expensive due to its provenance. Any car of yours that's survived 30 years is a miracle
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    Re: Allora corse hawk LB

    I recently priced up a new kit apparently I had specified a high spec but it was all parts you needed to complete the build factor in another 10k for additional bits ie donor paint vat etc and you have spent north of 50k and you still have to put it together I could not justify that so have decided on a used kit/car. It would be nice to build new but i felt I needed to be realistic.
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    Re: Allora corse hawk LB

    Quote Originally Posted by ProtoTipo View Post
    All types of Stratos replica have the potential to be finished to a high standard.
    Given how few come up for sale, you'd probably have to grab whatever came up for sale first. In any case, you need lots of patience.

    In the last couple of years, these cars and kits have come up for sale:
    May 2019 - Lister Bell STR, finished car £54,000 (I think that was the asking price, and the goal posts on completed and registered cars have probably moved since?)
    September 2020 - Transformer (Hawk) HF registered properly, but needed finishing and painting £19,099
    June 2021 - Litton Corse, asking £23,000

    Have there been any more recently?
    https://www.stratosec.com/Forum/show...B-STR-Stradale December 2019 - £67K and sold pretty quickly IIRC

    The ebay Corse - is that the one that went to the Wrexham outfit for building ? March 2016 - was about £14K I think




    I would think that an incomplete registered kit would be £30K plus now depending on the specification - there are plenty of us about who should know
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    Re: Allora corse hawk LB

    30k for an incomplete but registered kit would be fine I think, I would much rather back track and rebuild to my spec

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    Re: Allora corse hawk LB

    Quote Originally Posted by Martin0074 View Post
    30k for an incomplete but registered kit would be fine I think, I would much rather back track and rebuild to my spec
    Videos are still up on Youtube of what £23K may have bought you a year ago - don't think it was registered though but came with the Donor Beta V5

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RErvnzWXsw

    Grabbing the first one you see - yes well ...ahem there are good an bad points about doing that - Still glad I did though and that Craig was there to support when the size of the can of worms I had opened became apparent.
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    Re: Allora corse hawk LB

    Quote Originally Posted by ProtoTipo View Post
    All types of Stratos replica have the potential to be finished to a high standard.
    Given how few come up for sale, you'd probably have to grab whatever came up for sale first. In any case, you need lots of patience.

    Have there been any more recently?
    The obvious one would be the ex RC Pirelli Hawk which was for sale anywhere between £69,995 and £109,995 depending which day of the week it was and which way the wind was blowing.
    I'm pretty sure it is now abroad so that would indicate it sold. I do know what the sale figure was though.
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    Re: Allora corse hawk LB

    For the avoidance of any confusion, "ex RC" doesn't mean it used to be radio controlled - RC is a current club member who's had a few Strats including the one mentioned, and currently owns a nice ListerBell
    It wasn't him who was selling in this case but a dealer who chopped and changed the price depending on his mood....Jekyll and Hyde Motors, I think they were...
    Last edited by Normb666; 18-02-2022 at 17:23.

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