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    Re: Allora corse hawk LB

    For the avoidance of any confusion, "ex RC" doesn't mean it used to be radio controlled - RC is a current club member who's had a few Strats including the one mentioned, and currently owns a nice ListerBell
    It wasn't him who was selling in this case but a dealer who chopped and changed the price depending on his mood....Jekyll and Hyde Motors, I think they were...
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    Re: Allora corse hawk LB

    Quote Originally Posted by Martin0074 View Post
    30k for an incomplete but registered kit would be fine I think, I would much rather back track and rebuild to my spec
    Videos are still up on Youtube of what £23K may have bought you a year ago - don't think it was registered though but came with the Donor Beta V5

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RErvnzWXsw

    Grabbing the first one you see - yes well ...ahem there are good an bad points about doing that - Still glad I did though and that Craig was there to support when the size of the can of worms I had opened became apparent.
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    Re: Allora corse hawk LB

    Quote Originally Posted by Darkspeed View Post
    Hawk is the easiest to identify from an original or an LB - just look for a large block step under the sill about 40mm deep - That will tell you its a Hawk .

    LB - its actually slightly harder to tell from an original - but the most straight forward way is to look for the lack of a vertical line in the sill at the back of the door. LB also has crisper cleaner lines

    An original - Non block under the sill - vertical line in the sill at the back of the door.

    And LHD - RHD naturally

    Allora - The body line in the nose is not aligned with the rest of the body line - they have a slight droop snoot

    Corse - Very flat profile to the roof spoiler
    Thanks, that's helpful.
    I'll head off and look at some pics to test my new spotting skillz

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    Re: Allora corse hawk LB

    Quote Originally Posted by renmure View Post
    Thanks, that's helpful.
    I'll head off and look at some pics to test my new spotting skillz
    To date, Hawk/Transformer front louvre slots are shorter, but the whole assembly is in 4 individual alloy parts.

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    Re: Allora corse hawk LB

    There were a couple of myths about Corse bodywork.
    The flat roof spoiler which Andrew mentions was only as a result of laziness on assembling the two half's. Upper and lower. I made an acceptably curved spoiler from the same moulds while they were in my charge.
    The other myth was about the concave roof shape which again was only on some cars when the centre section mould had been stored with something on top of it prior to use. The mould was flexible! If you turned it upside down and put a bag of sand inside it popped back to the correct shape.
    There were two sets of Corse moulds. The original ones, some of which appeared to be of Allora vintage, and a further set produced by an outfit in Oxfordshire. That second set had supposedly been refined, but the moulds were as floppy as a very floppy thing, and coupled with some very resin rich thick laying up the panel quality (Napiersport) was very hit and miss.
    The original moulds still exist and are in private ownership. The second set were sold to France and are probably best forgotten about.
    The LB panels are light years ahead of Corse/Allora stuff.

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    Re: Allora corse hawk LB

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mayers View Post

    Frederic has bought and sold a few over the last couple of years? That information is his business so if he wants to disclose the prices paid I'd let him do so.
    ?

    The Corse S has been sold in 2017 around £40k (after LHD conversion and restoration in Alitalia gr 4)
    The blue chardonnet Hawk was sold in 2020 around £90k (after LHD conversion rally prep with a spare engine NOS…)
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    Re: Allora corse hawk LB

    Quote Originally Posted by renmure View Post
    Thanks, that's helpful.
    I'll head off and look at some pics to test my new spotting skillz
    Corse family have very shallow offset front wheels c/w Hawk/LB.

    Maybe we should see what we can assemble at the Scottish Italian Car Day Jim?

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    Re: Allora corse hawk LB

    Quote Originally Posted by john View Post
    The flat roof spoiler which Andrew mentions was only as a result of laziness on assembling the two half's. Upper and lower. I made an acceptably curved spoiler from the same moulds while they were in my charge.
    Flat roof spoilers are not an uncommon sight on the original Lancia Stratos.

    Here's some:
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    Re: Allora corse hawk LB

    Cripes! Who knew!?
    One look at that white car and I would say "replica".

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    Re: Allora corse hawk LB

    Quote Originally Posted by john View Post
    One look at that white car and I would say "replica".
    I wondered too John, but there's some more photos of it, and it's definitely a real one.

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