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    Re: Allora For Sale - LHD in Germany near Cologne

    It's been converted to Left Hand Drive.

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    Re: Allora For Sale - LHD in Germany near Cologne

    Would you have to pay the import duties bringing it into Northern Ireland,still part of uk but in the single market.

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    Re: Allora For Sale - LHD in Germany near Cologne

    Wow I’m surprised that Enzo sells his great Allora

    I really love this car with the amazing job Enzo did it on
    I always liked the Tony Fassina livery and If I don’t have any Strat on order I would buy immediatly!

    Hope this great car stay in own of one SEC member!

    Good luck with the sale
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    Re: Allora For Sale - LHD in Germany near Cologne

    Quote Originally Posted by Kenny m View Post
    Would you have to pay the import duties bringing it into Northern Ireland,still part of uk but in the single market.
    I'm sure you would Kenny! Even getting it into Southern Ireland might be an issue if it has to transit through the UK? It would take someone with specialist knowledge I think.

    I would suspect that the market for this car will remain in Germany, there's enough demand and having one already registered is one hoop the new owner would't have to jump through.

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    Re: Allora For Sale - LHD in Germany near Cologne

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    I would suspect that the market for this car will remain in Germany, there's enough demand and having one already registered is one hoop the new owner would't have to jump through.

    Guy[/QUOTE]


    For sure Guy , this car is well know and very famous in Germany as Enzo raced in plenty events last decade and probably would attract local buyers with a cheap price for the EU market!!
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    Re: Allora For Sale - LHD in Germany near Cologne

    Some note on importing classic cars.

    https://www.importing-cars.co.uk/ser...l-interest.php

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    Re: Allora For Sale - LHD in Germany near Cologne

    Quote Originally Posted by Kenny m View Post
    Would you have to pay the import duties bringing it into Northern Ireland,still part of uk but in the single market.
    Coincidentally the HMRC car teams office is in Belfast. The lady I spoke to said its 20% vat UK wide. I guess nobody predicted this scenario before 2016? Had it been changed in to Enzo's name in the UK then it might have been possible to bring it straight back.. Escaping the tax man is near impossible ��
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    Re: Allora For Sale - LHD in Germany near Cologne

    I have experience of importing from the USA import duty and Vat then I assume it may need to pass through IVA BUT THAT IS ONLY A GUESS someone here may correct that

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    Re: Allora For Sale - LHD in Germany near Cologne

    It may be possible to avoid VAT (20%) and Import Duty (10%) on a car that was previously exported.

    https://www.gov.uk/guidance/pay-less...#when-to-claim

    This isn't something you should rely on and if anyone in the UK is contemplating purchase please check directly with HMRC. You may have to rely on recorded chassis and engine numbers that used to appear on the DVLA website and, given it's had an engine change with Enzo, that may cause headaches. Do your research chaps!

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    Re: Allora For Sale - LHD in Germany near Cologne

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mayers View Post
    It may be possible to avoid VAT (20%) and Import Duty (10%) on a car that was previously exported.

    https://www.gov.uk/guidance/pay-less...#when-to-claim

    This isn't something you should rely on and if anyone in the UK is contemplating purchase please check directly with HMRC. You may have to rely on recorded chassis and engine numbers that used to appear on the DVLA website and, given it's had an engine change with Enzo, that may cause headaches. Do your research chaps!

    Guy
    I was genuinely interested in this car so what I'm writing here is not to scupper the sellers sale, it's based on what I checked with HMRC and DVLA on this specific car.

    The car was permanently exported by Enzo and is marked thus at DVLA against reg AEE 11W.

    HMRC confirmed that it would attract 20%vat. They didn't mention 10% import duty and I didn't ask..

    They said the only way this could be brought back in without tax dues was if the new owner (Enzo) had had the V5 changed to his name before taking it out of the country. Then only he could return it to the UK and re-register it with DVLA. Sadly he confirmed to me that he didn't change the V5 and probably no-one ever anticipated this scenario whilst we were in the EU...

    I've no idea whether any other "methods" could be used to bring it back with taxes. I just decided to make my own enquiries to find out the facts as best I could...

    As has been said, it'll probably easily find a buyer on the continent where everything will be more straightforward..

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