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    Transformer/Hawk Stratos replica

    Fresh MOT and a very long list of jobs just done at Keith Waite's, from cambelt, aux belt, clutch, oil cooler, flywheel skimming, gear linkage, braided fuel lines, etc. Quite well known to the club (used to be Elliott's and I think he took it to a few events).

    Important points:
    • 24V 3.0
    • dynoed at 240bhp
    • 5 speed box
    • DTA engine management
    • heated windscreen
    • spare front clam (the current one is racing-thin and has a few stress cracks on the surface)
    • first registered 1998
    • registered as a "Transformer" on the paperwork



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    After dropping and recommissioning the engine and transmission and remounting it, Keith thinks the engine sounds 'rattly' from cold and notes that oil pressure drops when the engine is warmed up. So there's a question mark as to whether a bottom end rebuild is needed.

    In light of that, and the chance that the next owner might want a 3.2/6-speed with Omex/other management, I'm offering it as-is for anyone who wants to do the spannering themselves.

    Price: £45,000

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    Re: Transformer/Hawk Stratos replica

    Quote Originally Posted by goldtop View Post
    I'm offering it as-is for anyone who wants to do the spannering themselves.
    Price: £45,000
    As things are (as in, nobody can get their hands on a Stratos replica kit without a very long wait, or at all), it's worth all of that, and not a penny less.

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    Re: Transformer/Hawk Stratos replica

    Sale paused while we do the engine rebuild.

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    Re: Transformer/Hawk Stratos replica

    Barry, does that mean you've got a buyer who wants the motor done, or have you simply decided to take it off-sale temporarily pending bottom end work?

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    Re: Transformer/Hawk Stratos replica

    The latter.

    I've only had a couple of what I guess you might call "long-distance tyre-kickers" so far. And I suppose that it's obvious that the market for a mechanically-sorted car is bigger than one for a needs-work car.

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    Re: Transformer/Hawk Stratos replica

    Think you're doing the right thing there. You're in that odd no-man's-land between "barn find - give it to a specialist for full restoration" and "been standing a few years - needs full service, checkover and polish". A fully-sorted car will appeal to many more people. Just a shame you'll have to have the engine out again....

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    Re: Transformer/Hawk Stratos replica

    The rattle would concern me but oil pressure dropping when the engine is warm is perfectly normal isn't it? All the cars I've had with oil pressure gauges show this behaviour.

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    Re: Transformer/Hawk Stratos replica

    I was thinking the same. My oil pressure (3ltr 24V) drops quite low when the engine is warmed up and on tick-over - scarcely above the lowest setting on the guage. (my engine was rebuilt by Autolusso 130 miles ago)

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    Re: Transformer/Hawk Stratos replica

    This is beyond my pay-grade, so I defer to what Keith knows and expects (as he's known the car and Alfa engines so long).

    I don't know Alfa engines at all, but on other cars old enough to have proper oil pressure gauges, I've seen that same behaviour. As for the sound, the whole car is so loud I can't tell a "problem rattle" from a "healthy racket".

    I suppose I am buying peace of mind. But in that case, I should be doing it to get the benefits myself! :-/

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    Re: Transformer/Hawk Stratos replica

    Just to note: I've had two enquires from members in the USA, and in both cases the process has stalled at the same issue: the 25-year-rule seems to preclude the import of any non-approved car into the USA. I found this write-up on a UK-USA shipping company's site: https://www.autoshippers.co.uk/blog/...e-25-year-rule

    There are some special cases (historic cars, I think, is one), but nothing that applies to a Stratos kit car, as far as I can see.

    With this car being registered in 1998, even the though donor car was a mid-1980s Lancia Beta, it looks like US buyers could not import that car until the latter part of next year (2023).

    Doncha just love red tape!

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