Alfa 164 3.0 24v engine and gearbox(es)

[rutthenut]

No photos at present, but having changed my engine and box last year, for tweaked GTV engine and 6-speed box, my older units are available.

The engine is from a 164, so a 3.0 litre 24v unit.

Was still running fine (video clip available) but I cannot vouch for it as occasionally over-heated but later found header tank lid was bent and cap would not hold any pressure. No bottom end noises, oil pressure fine.

Anyone using it would at least need to change cam belt and tensioner, would recommend new water pump and t-stat at the time.


I have re-used the engine management from that on my later engine. That does mean I have a GTV engine loom, ecu and immobiliser, which should fit. I also used the 164 airflow meter, so GTV parts available too.

Would be ideal for anyone looking to rebuild or refresh an existing 164 engine.

The flywheel was lightened a small amount (by Barry Waterhouse) and has an uprated clutch. If splitting these, would recommend new clutch though this has never slipped even when dumping the clutch for Brooklands 'Test Hill' starts.

As for the gearbox, I have two available. Both are five-speed units.

First, currently attached to the engine, is my original 164 12v gearbox that is running a 2-litre diff (lower-geared, higher ratio than 3-litre) and has a Gripper limited slip diff fitted to it. The diff is worth about a grand, new. Great for track use, whereas a Q2 is much better for road use.

Alternatively, I have a 164 24v gearbox sat in the garage. Condition unknown as I haven't run it, but was believed fine when I got it with the 24v engine.


If anyone is interested in the engine or either gearbox then let me know.
Price would depend on what is being purchased as could be a job lot, or I may end up selling individually.

Would need to be collected from near Newbury, Berkshire.

[hollytree]

PM sent, I could pick up the non race one tomorrow if that is OK

[hollytree]

Well the sitting condition unknown gearbox is a duffer! - No matter/no criticism.

I have tried cleaning it and struggled so I took it to Halifax Clutch N Gearbox.
Well they just called.
The box is stripped and the casing clean but 3rd and 4th gears are shot.
I need 3rd and 4th gears and 3rd and 4th gear hub kit.
Anyone got any ideas where I might get such items?

[rutthenut]

Well the sitting condition unknown gearbox is a duffer! - No matter/no criticism.

I have tried cleaning it and struggled so I took it to Halifax Clutch N Gearbox.
Well they just called.
The box is stripped and the casing clean but 3rd and 4th gears are shot.
I need 3rd and 4th gears and 3rd and 4th gear hub kit.
Anyone got any ideas where I might get such items?

So sorry about that, I obviously had no idea it was duff or would've weighed it in for scrap.

I thought the usual failures with these were the bearing, so a couple of gears gone is really bad news.


I do have my other gearbox, attached to the old engine, though that is fitted with the Gripper limited slip diff unit, which has some more value than a plain box with open diff.

[hollytree]

John
No problems and don't say sorry.
You sold it to me for me peanuts in any event.
It has sat on the floor for 18 months and all seemed fine whenever I twiddled it by hand.
With old cars these things happen.

I have some leads on ebay and Guy has given me some great suggestions to pursue.
I will now play Poirot for a few days/weeks and see how I get on.