Lionel and NapierSports

**john** · 06-10-2011, 13:48

I could'nt answer that, Chris. Did'nt see the one you refer to. Where was it advertised? Not on the last forum?

**ChrisCar6** · 06-10-2011, 19:09

It was on Fleabay IIRC

**john** · 06-10-2011, 19:22

I doubt very much it's the same one then.
This is a Corse I chassis. The last to be built in Yorkshire, before fabrication started the "Tour of England".
It was the last one for a reason......

**hollytree** · 06-10-2011, 20:25

Originally Posted by Nigel

Lionel has pulled those sob stories before!!
In reality he's out of money till he pulls a fast one on his next victim!!!!

I refuse to be a victim of his and will correct all of the problems that should NOT be there.
I want this car!! ( He has shattered more than a few peoples dreams!)
Craig did the best thing in saying to himself " I CAN do better then that ". = Lister Bell

It cost him $1500 ot send me a windscreen to Texas because it missed the ship! but it has cost me a LOT more to correct the other things that are wrong with the chassis and bodywork!

If Sue is unwell - I wish her a swift recovery (but does not distract from my distain for Lionel's buisness ethics )

Rant over after another night of redoing stuff that should have been engineered out at source!

Do you have Brian's KIt?

I bought the part built car from Brian and am now working hard to try and complete it.
Steve

**hollytree** · 06-10-2011, 20:29

Originally Posted by john

Glad Paul's build is coming along well.
Yes, the LB bodywork was well worth the wait I'm sure.
Napiersports bodywork supply has been somwhat erratic to say the least.
What you have and what they currently supply are from two different sets of moulds.
I'd imagine you will unfortunately struggle when it comes to fitting the panels, tho' there are one or two tricks which may help you when the time comes, so let me know if I can give you the necessary pointers at that time.
Napiersport are now using the "original" Litton/CAE moulds which although much older still produce better panels if the laminator knows what he's doing. Still nowhere within a country mile of LB quality though.
Napiersports big problem is that despite their mantra that they ensure quality by manufacturing in carefully selected sub-contract suppliers, in reality they have had continuous problems in maintaining any relationship with those contractors, who have been largely uninterested in helping, and supply has therefore moved around the country from one abortive agreement to another. The results have been predictably largely disastrous.
I think Nigel is asking "Hollytree" which kit he has rather than yourself, Tipo.
If it is the one from South Wales, then I know it, and it's past problems very well.

I bought my kit from Brian in S Wales. Can someone enlighten me on the problems. Help!
Steve

**hollytree** · 06-10-2011, 20:32

S Wales car.
The one I bought from Brian is in very good shape with zero cuts and welds and has been put together very well.
The loom was in, the chassis rolling and the moving body panels losely fitted, though the main section bonded and done very nicely.
Steve

**hollytree** · 06-10-2011, 21:16

I have managed to contact Lionel.
He abandoned the 0870 number because he said people did not like calling it as they thought Lionel was making money out of it and they were being overcharged.
He lost his mobile last week.
After lots of emails and messages he has arranged for plastics4performance to send me a set of side windows direct.
Steve

**john** · 06-10-2011, 22:19

Steve,
I'm sending you a PM.

**john** · 10-10-2011, 21:11

That's an "S" chassis, I believe Gary?
That's the one design which has just about a full set of drawings. When I checked through them last the only detail drawing missing from the whole pack was a front bulkhead detail.
All the drawings were signed SG, so obviously date from Steve Greenwoods tenure of the project.
Problem is with the "I" chassis, which never seems to have had a full set of drawings.
There are bound to be difficulties in passing fabrication around unless there are a full set of drawings!
When I was involved it was necessary to actually be there with the fabricator to iron out details.
This was how the first 24valve chassis went together, and the modifications were all presented in Autocad.
Drawing work, incidentally, which has still not been paid for fully three years down the line.
That first 24 valve chassis went together very well. You may have seen pictures of it built-the yellow and green Olio FIAT style car in Italy.