Does anybody out there have ideas on the origins of this steering wheel - it's a screen-grab of Waldegard at the wheel of his 1976 Safari Stratos.
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Does anybody out there have ideas on the origins of this steering wheel - it's a screen-grab of Waldegard at the wheel of his 1976 Safari Stratos.
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Can't help with the wheel David but the boss looks a little deeper than the usual one so that may be a clue?
Guy
Hi Guy, yes could be a spacer boss to bring the wheel back. It's dished a bit too. Cheers for the input
David
It's a Ferrero David. Note the pcd size and bolt arrangement.
I've never, ever, seen one for sale.
There's a standard Lancia Montecarlo wheel (MOMO fitting, here) that looks similar, but it's not the right one, and it won't do for your car.
Thanks Chris, looks like we might have to make one
Base for modification?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-70s-...96fc1f&vxp=mtr
Expensive start though....
Guy
That's a good find Guy, that would be a spot on steering wheel as it's almost a perfect match to this very well know car :cool:.
http://vincesgallery.smugmug.com/Oth...nterior-XL.jpg
Get it retrimmed to match and I would have thought the long spoke trim would cover the two outer most holes leaving just the single inner hole visable.
It's a good start anyway, not sure how rare they are.
Vince.
Just found this photo as well:
http://vincesgallery.smugmug.com/Oth...DC1979a-XL.jpg
Of course the Group 5 car had this version as well:
http://vincesgallery.smugmug.com/Oth...IMG_4902-L.jpg
That's got to be the narrowest drivers seat ever fitted!
Guy
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Originally Posted by Monte76
I'd ask a question or two of the seller before spending that sort of money on it. It'd be a shame to buy it and find it's the wrong diameter? At the price they are asking it may be around a while? If it's not far off it could be a useful pattern for a tool? The spokes look it's fabricated rather than pressed?
Chrome handbrake lever too?
Guy
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Originally Posted by Monte76
Cheers guys. We think Waldegard used a special one without the holes that somehow better suited him - maybe for safety reasons.
The photo that Vince posted is the same car, different driver, it's Robin Ulyate's number 6 1977 Safari car.
As Guy says, the Miura wheel is too large in diameter.
Quite a few of the Ferrero wheels had that six bolt fitting ring in the centre. I know the photo of the Waldergard car doesn't, but it could be used to disguise a Monte MOMO wheel, and to have the bolts on the larger circle and in between each of the existing holes?
I think some early Integrales had a similar three spoke steering wheel to the MOMO Monte one.
It looks like the bend in the spokes is on a straight line.
So it would be much easier to make one up than (for example) it would be for the 4 spoke Stradale wheel.
I remember Gerry said the four spoke one needed some tooling because the bend for the dish is on a radius.
The two spoke Ferrero wheels also have a bend on a straight line, so they could possible be cut and formed too. The two spokes do tend to come up for sale much more often than the others though. When I say 'often', I mean twice a year!
The bend is curved, looking at the lower spoke
david
Yes, I think you might be right.Quote:
Originally Posted by davehanman
The radius should be the same as the Stradale Ferrero, so I wonder what Gerry's tooling consists of?
Still not the right one and yet even more expensive..
http://www.ebay.de/itm/VW-Kafer-Ferr...item51966c21e0
Guy
That's the same as a Miura wheel. 'Looks like the seller doesn't realise that, but knows it's rare?Quote:
Originally Posted by Guy Mayers
That looks very similar to the 1977 Safari wheel. Could probably be used for a 1977 car. Hopefully something will come up without the holes in the spokes !
Thanks for your help, let's keep looking !!
Is this the one you are looking for.
It is only on the RHD Lamborghini Urraco. LHD ones are very different.
If you think it is close we have some cars in storage I could measure etc.
Tom.
That looks close to my untrained eye Tom, nice one....
But how are you going to explain the new Momo thats took its place???????
Is that the interior of a Urraco 300 Tom?Quote:
Originally Posted by tomsredstratos
I remember the 250 model with the Miura/Stratos inner door handles and that weird space age steering wheel.
Yes RHD 3000cc.
The 250 LHD has the strange wheel.
Tom.
Good find Tom, if that's not the exact same wheel then its mighty close. It'll be interesting to see if the mounting hole pattern matches.
Vince.
http://www.eurospares.co.uk/searchRe...3&SM=&SMo=&O=0
Listed as used, £600 (!) for Uracco 300 but has holes with bungs? A 250 wheel is available new for £200.
I'll keep looking!
Guy
http://www.lamborghini-talk.com/vbfo...dealers-27289/
Upcoming Wheeler Dealer resto? If they've got the right steering wheel it might be worth offering to but them a brand new one and PX fort he old one?
Just a thought, contact email on this thread.
Guy
Tom, thanks, this is the closest i've seen. If you have any cars with this wheel on them, it would be great if you could get some measurements. The wheel you've shown me the photo of looks almost identical to Waldegards 1976 wheel, other photos of RHD Uraccos look a bit different (more dish where the spokes are covered).
Thanks for your help
David
Quote:
Originally Posted by tomsredstratos
Here's a much clearer detail - Waldegards 1975 Safari car, i found this image in McKlein's excellent new book "Safari Rally"
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What steering racks did Lancia use?
I was just looking through some of my pics and does this look close? Not a good angle I know....
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I will have a measure and get some pictures as soon as I am near any RHD Urraco's.
Tom.
It does, but something not quite right about the padded part of the spoke ?
What's the story of that wheel ?!
David
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Originally Posted by The Slug
Hi David,
No story really,
Its one I had but have let Listerbell use it for the IVA, not thought about it until your post and I was looking through my build photos and came across it and thought that looks similar..
Tom,
PM sent about the Uracco wheel we discussed at Stoneleigh
David
David,
Replied to PM.
Tom.
The steering arms (and rack mount position) on a Stratos are forward of the axle line, with the pinion below the rack.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrisCar6
The Triumph Herald also this arrangement.
Another one with a similar set up is the Ferrari 246/308. So my guess is that the Stratos rack has more to do with Ferrari than Fiat? It's just a guess though.
The X1/9/Monte have the rack mount and steering arms behind the axle line, with the pinion above the rack, so no use on a Stratos. Not if mounted the right way up, that is. You sit that bit further back in an X1/9 compared to a Stratos, where you're nearly on the top of the front wheels. No wonder some find the skewed seat to pedals angle a bit odd?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VOLANTE-AB...NERE-/19041597
Close... Bolt pattern not quite right...
Guy
Guy, the link's not working. Anyway, some more news : this wheel is not just Uracco, it's on all Countach LP400's as well. Not sure if that makes it easier, or harder, to find one ! So far, we're coming up blank.
Thanks
David
Try this one David...
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1904159721...150%26_rdc%3D1
good to hear there's a more common donor!
Guy
That's a very nice wheel Guy. Nearly right. I see it's a replica and will contact the seller and try to find out where it was made.
Cheers
David