STONELIGH - There'll be Hawks. LB's and (possibly) Corse and Allora there too. Just look and learn! Too many differences to list and, even after all these years i struggle to know if it's a Corse or a Napiersport....Originally Posted by renmure
STONELIGH - There'll be Hawks. LB's and (possibly) Corse and Allora there too. Just look and learn! Too many differences to list and, even after all these years i struggle to know if it's a Corse or a Napiersport....
Last edited by Guy Mayers; 17-02-2022 at 23:18.
Yup, I’ve been, often, and am still none the wiser hence the question and needing to do an 800 mile round trip to a once a year event is a pretty inefficient way to learn methinks.
I need to get a little bit less than a mile away, to tell which is which.
In the last twelve years I owned a Napiersport Corse a Hawk HF 3000 and now a LB kit under construction…there are actually a lot of differences between them!
Only the Hawk has got both fuel tank and filler like the original car (think it’s optionnal on LB with Toyota engine only if not wrong)
Corse has a different tubular chassis than original one but the inner cockpit is more spacious than original car and the Hawk ( a trouble for tall driver more 6’ like me!!)
the Hawk has floor lowered ( you can see easily on the Hawk sides the lower floor under the chassis not on the others!)
LB is a little bit heavier than other ones but is built with modern parts like brake suspension ….
Last edited by Stratie.fr; 18-02-2022 at 08:11.
Actually, at the end of the day any of the differences are pretty irrelevant. All of them drive and handle well beyond our abilities when used on public roads. They're all similar to look at underneath paint schemes and it's what brings a group like this together. We all love the Stratos!
All types of Stratos replica have the potential to be finished to a high standard.
Given how few come up for sale, you'd probably have to grab whatever came up for sale first. In any case, you need lots of patience.
In the last couple of years, these cars and kits have come up for sale:
May 2019 - Lister Bell STR, finished car £54,000 (I think that was the asking price, and the goal posts on completed and registered cars have probably moved since?)
September 2020 - Transformer (Hawk) HF registered properly, but needed finishing and painting £19,099
June 2021 - Litton Corse, asking £23,000
Have there been any more recently?
Shades - a Transformer HF3000 - is currently for sale in France for €95,000. Plus side is that it's EU registered, downside it's RHD in a LHD market.
Frederic has bought and sold a few over the last couple of years? That information is his business so if he wants to disclose the prices paid I'd let him do so.
Phil Dolby has sold a couple of cars, Chris & Jane Smiths has gone to France too. I'm sure there are others.
I've been offered what I would have previously considered silly money for my car with one particularly insistent person at Race Retro returning to the stand several times to see if I'd changed my mind. However I'm still of the opinion that it will only be for sale when I'm no longer fit to drive it. Being LHD/properly registered/over 30 years old may account for the offers.
The market continues to change I think. With demand out stripping supply by a fair margin anyone willing to sell does so in the knowledge that they can't replace their car like for like very easily. The value of these cars is also dependant on the buyers ability to get them legally registered in their country of choice otherwise it's just something to use on track days or stare at in the living room. That's where we all keep them isn't it? Or is that what we call the Garage these days?
Can't remember the date but think it was mid-2020 - Gordon Caro's immaculate ListerBell, 3.0 Alfa power, 2k miles, asking a lot more than £54K, sold in next to no time. Told him it was too cheap... prices will be up since then, due to currently-closed order book. Only way to get one is to buy used!
Guy, yours will be expensive due to its provenance. Any car of yours that's survived 30 years is a miracle
Last edited by Normb666; 18-02-2022 at 14:19.
https://www.stratosec.com/Forum/show...B-STR-Stradale December 2019 - £67K and sold pretty quickly IIRC
The ebay Corse - is that the one that went to the Wrexham outfit for building ? March 2016 - was about £14K I think
I would think that an incomplete registered kit would be £30K plus now depending on the specification - there are plenty of us about who should know
Last edited by Darkspeed; 18-02-2022 at 17:05.
The obvious one would be the ex RC Pirelli Hawk which was for sale anywhere between £69,995 and £109,995 depending which day of the week it was and which way the wind was blowing.
I'm pretty sure it is now abroad so that would indicate it sold. I do know what the sale figure was though.
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