Lister Bell STR for sale

[pim]

I think so,
The RHD and UK registration may hinder its market potential if they are actually trying to sell it on.
Belgium, like many other places in Europe is a difficult place to register UK kit cars.

Well if the car is properly registered in the UK no problem, i mean a new VIN and make / model not an existing VIN and Lancia Beta or something. Not speaking for Belgium but in Holland the biggest issue is the tax to be paid. For a car like this i think around 15.000 Euro's or more. ( if its a gasoline car, when registered as a diesel it is far less tax, crazy stuff )
I am still hoping to get my 037 through IVA ( instead of Dutch registration ) in the UK just because it is a bit easier on your side of the pond.
So me i am hoping Brexit is still not final yet. But i am sure some of you wil disagree.... ; )
And of course love to visit the UK again. Always like it there and realy love youre kind of humor.

[Strat Fan]

Well if the car is properly registered in the UK no problem, i mean a new VIN and make / model not an existing VIN and Lancia Beta or something. Not speaking for Belgium but in Holland the biggest issue is the tax to be paid. For a car like this i think around 15.000 Euro's or more.

The car is correctly registered in the UK as a Lister Bell STR with a date of first registration of April 2015.
I do not know what the requirement in Belgium is but I assume that a car with that year of first registration should meet Euro 6 emissions which the Alfa 2.5 24v does not.
As you also say new registrations and larger engines also command higher taxes.

[pim]

The car is correctly registered in the UK as a Lister Bell STR with a date of first registration of April 2015.
I do not know what the requirement in Belgium is but I assume that a car with that year of first registration should meet Euro 6 emissions which the Alfa 2.5 24v does not.
As you also say new registrations and larger engines also command higher taxes.

Yes taht is right in Holland tax is calculated from hordepower and weight, so the smaller end lighter the better. Emmissions have to comply with the existing regulations from the year of registration.

[Strat Fan]

Yes that is right in Holland tax is calculated from hordepower and weight, so the smaller end lighter the better. Emmissions have to comply with the existing regulations from the year of registration.

This is the problem with the UK system these days and why it is prohibitive to export a car into Europe. 5 years ago if you IVA'd a car in the UK using the age related system you could get a date of first registration relative to the age of the donor which was great.
If you used for example a 1988 Alfa 164 as a donor then you could get a 1988 date of first registration which made tax and imports easier for Germany, Italy, Holland etc. Once the DVLA satellite offices were closed and everything was moved top Swansea then this changed and all cars IVA'd on a new chassis now get a date of first registration as per the year of the IVA test. This is where it gets confusing for European exports because in the UK you can now have a car that has a 1988 registration plate, a car which meets 1988 emissions standards (this is detailed on the front cover of the V5 doc) but has date of first registration of 2018! The only bit which is relevant when exported is the year of 2018 and the emissions standard and registration plate are not acknowledged. A 1988 engine clearly doesn't meet EU6 emissions regulations for 2018.

[ah_sprite]

I asked him a few months ago how much he was looking for for the car - 78,000 euros!

Perhaps a mixture of it being a bit pricey and also not really having it obviously advertised anywhere apart from his own website probably doesn't help much either!

[pim]

This is the problem with the UK system these days and why it is prohibitive to export a car into Europe..

What do you mean by "prohibitive" . Would my plan still work, getting a "clean" engine in the 037, get it through IVA and than import it back into Holland?
If not thann i will be stuck with Dutch "IVA" which is more difficult and twice as expensive.

[Strat Fan]

What do you mean by "prohibitive" . Would my plan still work, getting a "clean" engine in the 037, get it through IVA and than import it back into Holland?
If not thann i will be stuck with Dutch "IVA" which is more difficult and twice as expensive.

Yes you can IVA it in the UK but you need to be clear about who the manufacturer is, how you prove that the chassis and other components are new and what components you would be using to give you an age related plate (or are you looking for a new registration?) You will also need a UK address to apply for an IVA and registration.
In either case the date of first registration will be from the year of the IVA test so how the Dutch authorities would then interpret this with regards to taxation and emissions remains open to question.