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    Re: Richard Burns Memorial Rally, RAF Marham, 2009

    John,
    Why was it possible to get an RAC MSA log book back in the day (like the cars that used to compete in the stage rally at Abingdon), but not possible now?

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    Re: Richard Burns Memorial Rally, RAF Marham, 2009

    [I got this in the pile of paper when I bought my collection of bits/chassis/panels.
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    Re: Richard Burns Memorial Rally, RAF Marham, 2009

    Quote Originally Posted by ProtoTipo View Post
    John,
    Why was it possible to get an RAC MSA log book back in the day (like the cars that used to compete in the stage rally at Abingdon), but not possible now?
    It was a big fight for Steve to get his log book.
    While building his car I think the engine size limits changed at least twice. Steve also had the Litton roll cage certificate and his chassis was indeed a Litton.
    I think in the early 2000's then individual MSA (local) scrutineers had some say in which cars got log books and which didn't. In latter years if you didn't 100% meet blue book regs, then you had no chance. They certainly tightened up minimum annual production numbers for approved chassis.
    I did have preliminary discussions with the msa for LB in the early days but no idea where that went or what the current LB competition chassis actually qualifies for.

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    Re: Richard Burns Memorial Rally, RAF Marham, 2009

    Can Steve's car still be used on rallies today John?

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    Re: Richard Burns Memorial Rally, RAF Marham, 2009

    Well if he put it back together it could!
    Joking aside I think once a car is log booked it can't be revoked.
    As regards Abingdon, I think there was only a rare appearance by a Stratos on the Sunday rally.
    You didn't need a log book for the Saturday sprint of course.
    Steve and I had an entry for both sprint and rally one year only for the dry sump pump to ingest a seal first thing on the Saturday morning.
    Gary Lomas' Corse did the rally one year I remember and Dave Watson in his Allora, and there was Richard Gibbons' Corse too (below).
    Gary Keennans Corse had a log book.
    Can you think of any more?
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    Re: Richard Burns Memorial Rally, RAF Marham, 2009

    Quote Originally Posted by john View Post
    Can you think of any more?
    There was couple who rallied a Corse, who had the same (not common) name as another Corse owner, but were not related?

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    Re: Richard Burns Memorial Rally, RAF Marham, 2009

    Quote Originally Posted by ProtoTipo View Post
    There was couple who rallied a Corse, who had the same (not common) name as another Corse owner, but were not related?
    Jan Leach & Tony Aylott, There was another Tony Aylott who owned the Allora which now resides with James N.
    "You can lead a horse to water, but a pencil must be lead"
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    Re: Richard Burns Memorial Rally, RAF Marham, 2009

    Steve came and saw me and my Corse at Hebden Bridge show 2022, and I went to see his car in mine a few weeks later.
    He knows the organizer who I think tipped him off that i was registered.
    I hope he comes down in later this year (2024). It would be great if it was running and he came in it.
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    Re: Richard Burns Memorial Rally, RAF Marham, 2009

    Quote Originally Posted by Strat Fan View Post
    Jan Leach & Tony Aylott, There was another Tony Aylott who owned the Allora which now resides with James N.
    Ah yes Craig, the 'new' Allora?

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    Re: Richard Burns Memorial Rally, RAF Marham, 2009

    Quote Originally Posted by Strat Fan View Post
    Jan Leach & Tony Aylott, There was another Tony Aylott who owned the Allora which now resides with James N.
    That was it Craig. Strange coincidence on the 2 Aylots. Jan posts sometimes on the FB group but I don't think she has ever made it to the forum.

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